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1977 Sylvan Sea Monster Side Console Rebuild

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  • 1977 Sylvan Sea Monster Side Console Rebuild

    Decided i didn't have enough going with the Ouachita Convincer project lol so I went and looked at another boat this afternoon. Talked the guy down since it's going to need new decks, foam, carpet, paint, trailer lights and tires etc. But for the boat, trailer, 40hp Johnson, 36lb electric bow mount and some other goodies I was willing to pop the $350 we negotiated. Wife thinks I'm nuts for picking up another project but I know it will be fun.

    I'll bring it home in a week or two so will post pics then.

    The only thing I'm concerned with so far is whether there is a way to remove the old rubber bumper trim to reuse it (appears to be rock hard) after I remove/replace the cap or will I have to just plan on new?
    Last edited by oldrem; November 12th, 2017, 08:12 PM.
    - Eric

    Somers, WI

    Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

  • #2
    You can try heating it with a heat gun or blow drier but some times there's no way to save it.
    1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
    Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
    Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint...Say What!!!

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    • #3
      Cold and raining this morning, but drove up to Milwaukee to pick up the Sylvan. Put new wheels/tires on the trailer and a complete new wiring/light kit before I could trek it home. Luckily I took some good bungee cords along. Shortly after getting on the Interstate, the head of the transom saver broke so I pulled off to the side and secured it as tight as I could flat against the transom.

      Here it is in all it's glory:

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      - Eric

      Somers, WI

      Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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      • #4
        Put a head light on tonight and used your suggestion to try a heat gun on the rub rail insert. I removed a 4 ft section easily enough, but looking around the boat there are so many chunks out of it plus it has shrunk by at least 8 inches over the years. I'll be looking at a new insert next year when I get it put together.
        - Eric

        Somers, WI

        Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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        • #5
          Okay but...Start Saving!!! The rubber insert is PRICEY!!!!
          1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
          Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
          Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint...Say What!!!

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          • #6
            With temps in the 20's and low 30's this weekend, all I did was test the starter motor and the neutral safety switch. The switch works, but only if you find the exact "sweet spot". Doesn't look light it's a serviceable item. Wondering if spraying contact cleaner or brake cleaner might help???

            Moved to the basement to start building a pair of motor stands.
            - Eric

            Somers, WI

            Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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            • #7
              I'd recommend replacing the switch
              1961 Lonestar Flamingo - SPLASHED...Kinda!!
              Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms
              Paint Your Boat with Tractor Paint...Say What!!!

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              • #8
                Was afraid you'd say that Mike. I ordered one yesterday.

                I did finish my two new outboard stands. I made the one on the right a foot wider to accommodate both my 7.5hp and my 15hp. They were very crowded on my old stand I was given for the 5hp. The other one will be for the Johnson 40. I had a length of 2x12, so used that for both stands in place of the 2x6's

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                Somers, WI

                Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                • #9
                  On the expressway on my way home with the boat, the transom saver cradle end broke (what was left is shown in the picture). I stopped and bungied the motor down and prayed the road was smooth enough so the skeg wouldn't get damaged hitting the road the rest of the way. Good thing the trailer had stiff suspension.

                  The unit had a lot of surface rust, so I sanded, coated with Rustoleum Rust Reformer followed by red oxide primer and finally enamel. I replaced the old nuts, bolts and washers with stainless and made a new cradle from a block of 1" hard rubber. Should get some good use out of it now.

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                  Somers, WI

                  Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                  • #10
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                    - Eric

                    Somers, WI

                    Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                    • #11
                      Looks like this was the last weekend above freezing for us for quite a while, so I did as much as I could. Fought more that 30 rusted nuts and bolts removing things (WHY DOES ANYONE EVER USE REGULAR STEEL INSTEAD OF SS OR BRASS FASTENERS!) Removed the Minn Kota Power Drive, anchor winch assembly and the old bow light from the bow. Took one seat out, as well as the defunct Eagle Z-7000 locator (looks like it was not very waterproof). Removed the bow and stern castings and the remaining rub rail insert.

                      After inspecting the transom wood now that the motor is off, I've decided I'll be replacing that as well. Although there's no rot, a PO decided to use 2x wood instead of exterior ply and it's showing signs of cracking. The size of the wood insert on this boat is small enough that I can do it with 1/2 sheet of 3/4" (2' x 8' x 3/4) sold locally.

                      Not sure how much more I'll be able to do before the snow flies. I need to get it out of the car port and covered before that.
                      - Eric

                      Somers, WI

                      Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                      • #12
                        27 degrees when I got home from work this afternoon, but wanted to start pulling the transom wood. Bundled up, grabbed a toolbox, and started pulling the 600 (seemed like it) carriage bolts, screws, and nails. Popped off the transom cap and started removing rub rail bolts. Had one head strip, so may have to drill that one out in the daylight tomorrow. Hopefully that's the last one I'll need to get out to pull the old transom out.

                        Supposed to get up to 34 tomorrow, so won't be quite as bad to work on it. I still have a few things I want to strip off before I park it for the winter.

                        Not sure if I'm even going to bother covering it this year. It's been sitting outside for a couple years now, and I already know I'll be replacing all the flooring and foam so don't see that another winter can do any more harm.
                        - Eric

                        Somers, WI

                        Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                        • #13
                          The Sylvan, a re-branded Starcraft you'll find plenty of info in the SC section for your boat. Like the Wefco profile for the rub rail insert. It should be this one Profile 0101G Here's a link to the insert profiles. http://www.wefcorubber.com/PDF/marin...%20Inserts.pdf

                          The problem with leaving the boat uncovered is that as soon as the bilge drain hole fills with ice the boat will continue to fill, becoming very heavy and freezing ice expands which may cause damage too. I turtled my empty hulls for the winter when they weren't in the garage that is.




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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Watermann View Post
                            The Sylvan, a re-branded Starcraft you'll find plenty of info in the SC section for your boat. Like the Wefco profile for the rub rail insert. It should be this one Profile 0101G Here's a link to the insert profiles. http://www.wefcorubber.com/PDF/marin...%20Inserts.pdf

                            The problem with leaving the boat uncovered is that as soon as the bilge drain hole fills with ice the boat will continue to fill, becoming very heavy and freezing ice expands which may cause damage too. I turtled my empty hulls for the winter when they weren't in the garage that is.



                            Thank you Watermann. After pulling the transom and controls, I had second thoughts myself and covered it up alongside the Ouachita and the Appleby
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                            - Eric

                            Somers, WI

                            Old enough to know better - but crazy enough to try anyway

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                            • #15
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                              This is why I decided to replace the wood in the transom. No signs of deterioration, but those cracks are about 1/2" deep and probably wouldn't last long.
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                              PS: Weatherman lied - never got over 29 degrees F here today
                              Last edited by oldrem; December 10th, 2017, 11:48 AM.
                              - Eric

                              Somers, WI

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