winterize or not? never under 40F

[leo319]

hey hows it going everyone, pretty new in boating so i dont know if ima get laughed at, but oh well this is how one learns.
The area where i live nevers goes under 40F, so this winter (first winter with a boat) i plan on working on the boat since there is major problem in the engine. I will be keeping the boat in a garage where i can work on the engine. So my question is, do i still need to winterize if never goes under 40 degrees? ill probably need to run the engine a few times once the work is done on the engine, and i dont have a problem running it once in a while with muffs if that would help...

So yea thats my question. Thanks is advance for the feedback!
Boat info on my signature, Thanks again

 

[MRS]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

If it never gets under 40F you are good but I would drain the motor and manifolds every year just to get the crude out....

 

[float2]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

Hard freeze's are what will crack engine components. If the outside temp goes low enough to get you concerned maybe have a small heater or two on standby in the garage just in case.

 

[Alpheus]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

You missed a section of the forum that you didn't ask this question in. Stop double posting...

 

[leo319]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

i apologize. Again, im new to this forum and didn't know exactly where this post will be more appropriate. i will delete soon. just looking out for help. Didn't mean to bother anyone.

 

[Shrike]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

Change oil and grease the greasables.

 

[DonHof]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

Sometimes you have to double post to get some answers!

 

[Summer Fun]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

You missed a section of the forum that you didn't ask this question in. Stop double posting...

For crying out loud !!. When did you become the iboats forum police ??.

Do you need a group hug.

 

[Mikejr]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

You missed a section of the forum that you didn't ask this question in. Stop double posting...

Which section are you referring to? I'd like to look in it for info.

Mike

 

[Pirate_40]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

Stabilize your fuel and fog the motor.

 

[leo319]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

thanks for all the help guys. Much appreciated!!!!

 

[180shabah]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

I guess it depends on how you define winterize???

fluid and filter changes should be done in the fall to get rid of nay moisture before it sits for months. Stabilize the fuel, fog the engine


Then just drain it. air don't freeze in any climate - and there is nothing to clean up in the spring.

The real question is - with weather that mild, why are you putting it away for the "winter"???

 

[oops!]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

I guess it depends on how you define winterize???

fluid and filter changes should be done in the fall to get rid of nay moisture before it sits for months. Stabilize the fuel, fog the engine


Then just drain it. air don't freeze in any climate - and there is nothing to clean up in the spring.

The real question is - with weather that mild, why are you putting it away for the "winter"???

correct

 

[MPII]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

i apologize. Again, im new to this forum and didn't know exactly where this post will be more appropriate. i will delete soon. just looking out for help. Didn't mean to bother anyone.

Don't worry about that guy, its not the end of the world. I would suggest that you read the post that Don S. put on as a "sticky" about winterizing. It comes up at the begining when you client on the topic regarding non-motor related issues.

There is a lot about winterizing besides keeping the motor from freezing. There is a lot of preventative aspect of it. I would read that.

Welcome, I'm new here too, I joined over the summer. You will learn a lot from the nice people on here. You will also notice that some people can be nasty.

 

[leo319]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

hey guys thanks for all that help... I ended up draining the block, fog oil in carb, fuel stabilizer..

I did change the oil and filter. However, i still have water in the oil (lots of it! i started another thread for that a while back) so i know i have a bigger problem other than winterizing and worry about cracked block. From the looks of it i probably already have a cracked block. Other people say probably a blown gasket. I still haven't figured out how to check if the engine is really cracked.

im gonna wait until winter is over so i start working on the engine, hopefully i don't find any more surprises. i'm just getting ready for them.

 

[Lyle29464]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

I would try to save the engine. Get the water out. Just discounnect The hose that comes from the outdrive to your thermostat housing. hook up your muffs and run it 15 seconds to mix the new oil. Change oil and do again. Dont run long enought to cook your exhaust.

 

[MPII]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

hey guys thanks for all that help... I ended up draining the block, fog oil in carb, fuel stabilizer..

I did change the oil and filter. However, i still have water in the oil (lots of it! i started another thread for that a while back) so i know i have a bigger problem other than winterizing and worry about cracked block. From the looks of it i probably already have a cracked block. Other people say probably a blown gasket. I still haven't figured out how to check if the engine is really cracked.

im gonna wait until winter is over so i start working on the engine, hopefully i don't find any more surprises. i'm just getting ready for them.

I would suggest also that you attempt to save the motor. Do a search on here, there are lots of threads on this subject.

It could be a number of things. Cracked Block, Head, Intake, head gasket, etc. You will have to do a leak down test on each cyl and should also do a pressure test.

Also, on mine, when I first got it, it has some water in the oil that appeared to be significant. I did all the tests and it tested fine, I couldn't figure it out. I then found a tech note online for 4.3 LX, bad exhaust manifold gaskets can allow water to go into the motor through the exhaust. I put new gaskets on and it was fixed.

Good Luck!

 

[leo319]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

I would suggest also that you attempt to save the motor. Do a search on here, there are lots of threads on this subject.

It could be a number of things. Cracked Block, Head, Intake, head gasket, etc. You will have to do a leak down test on each cyl and should also do a pressure test.

Also, on mine, when I first got it, it has some water in the oil that appeared to be significant. I did all the tests and it tested fine, I couldn't figure it out. I then found a tech note online for 4.3 LX, bad exhaust manifold gaskets can allow water to go into the motor through the exhaust. I put new gaskets on and it was fixed.

Good Luck!

So what do you recommend me to check first?? i plan on taking the outdrive out first just so i can remove the engine later, start with exhaust and go from there??

theres a bog knocking coming from the engine so the marine mechanic advise me to change the block and heads, that i definitely have a serious engine problem because of that much water in oil and nasty knock.... again he kept saying "it could be this, it could be that, we need to take it apart" never gave me a concrete answer or never said "this is your problem this is what it takes to fix"... it bother me so ima give it a shot on my own...

 

[Silvertip]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

If you intend to work on this engine yourself it is highly recommended that you obtain a service manual specific to your engine and outdrive. It saves you time and helps avoid very costly mistakes. The reason your mechanic told you "it may be this" or "it may be that" is because that's what it may be. Water in the oil is a sign of what may one of many causes and just like you, he does not have x-ray vision so he needs to disassemble the engine to determine the cause of the problem. Water in the oil is due to a cracked block or head or much less likely, a gasket leak. A bad knock is due to overheating or lack of lubrication because the engine was operated with water in the oil. Guess what typically causes cracked blocks and heads? Try "freezing" due to failure to winterize. Overheating will also do it.

 

[leo319]

Re: winterize or not? never under 40F

If you intend to work on this engine yourself it is highly recommended that you obtain a service manual specific to your engine and outdrive. It saves you time and helps avoid very costly mistakes. The reason your mechanic told you "it may be this" or "it may be that" is because that's what it may be. Water in the oil is a sign of what may one of many causes and just like you, he does not have x-ray vision so he needs to disassemble the engine to determine the cause of the problem. Water in the oil is due to a cracked block or head or much less likely, a gasket leak. A bad knock is due to overheating or lack of lubrication because the engine was operated with water in the oil. Guess what typically causes cracked blocks and heads? Try "freezing" due to failure to winterize. Overheating will also do it.

i have a manual for my engine, in the look for one for the outdrive...

The mechanic told me definitely not signs of overheating, so i believe my problem will be lack of lubrication because the engine was operated with water in oil. That being the case, still possible to save the engine??

I understand the mechanic has to start taking things apart now, that is something id like to do, my problem will be how can i tell when something is wrong when taking it apart. Im gonna need help on how to check things, and what things to check of course...