Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

skydiveD30571

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1) Performance issue you are trying to correct.
Would like greater hole shot, so I'm interested in a 4 blade SS, but curious about over-revving (see below)

2) Current prop manufacturer, model, aluminum or stainless as a minimum.
Michigan Wheel Apollo stainless steel 3 blade

3) Current prop diameter and pitch (required).
14.25 x 19

4) Wide open throttle RPM and speed with an average load (very helpful)
4600rpm trimmed with smooth water and just me on board. With a normal load of a 4 people, about 4200rpm. Speed is a little over 50mph with just me, in the upper 40's with normal load.

5) Engine/drive make, model, year, and HP
2006 Volo Penta 5.0GL-H 220HP with sx-a 1.60 drive

6) Boat make model, year, length and weight
2007 Seaswirl 210 BR. 21ft, aprox. 3000lb dry.

I originally had a 3 blade aluminum prop that was pitched 21" when I bought the boat last year. I noticed right away it struggled hitting 4000rpm so I replaced it with the Apollo SS 19" pitch and it was much better. Last year it would hit near 4800rpm with a light load, and about 4500 with a normal load. Over the winter, the boat got heavier with the addition of a wakeboard tower and extra electronics. The prop is also dull and slightly burred up from running aground on a sandbar with small rocks. This year it barely reaches 4600rpm, and with a normal load is around 4200rpm. Volvo suggests 4400-4800.

The question is, I know a new clean sharp prop will have more efficiency and pick up some of that lost rpm, but I'm not sure how much. I dont really care about top end speed since I hate burning a tank of gas in a few hours. We wakeboard alot so holeshot is more important to me. I know that when going to a 4 blade prop, they are usually pitched 1" less to account for the added drag. My question is, am I close enough to the suggested rpm range to just go with the 18" 4 blade and hope replacing the dull burred prop puts me in the rpm range, or should I drop 2 more inches of pitch and go for a 16"? I can't seem to find props that change pitch in 1" intervals. I'm afraid dropping 2" will put me slightly over-revving the engine. As always, any input is appreciated!
 

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

I lost about 400rpm when I took my boat down an overly low river and started chopping the bottom. So I think dropping one pitch and going 4-blade will get you close to where you want to be. However I think pulling a wake boarder will add a noticeable load to your engine, but on the flip side a 2007 boat with a 5.0 and a 4 blade prop should overcome that.
 

jestor68

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

I doubt if anyone can say how much would be gained by replacing your prop with an identical prop, because it depends upon the damage your current prop has suffered. Typically, some improvement can be expected; but not that much if it's only slightly damaged.
 

skydiveD30571

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

After doing some reading and making some calls, I decided to order a 15x17 PowerTech ELE 4 blade. Being that I have a 19" pitch now, and typically you drop 1" for going from 3 blade to 4 blade, I went with the 17" to drop an additional inch to gain some rpm back. I was worried about dropping 2" and over-revving, so I feel like 1" should get me some performance back without overdoing it. I can't wait to try a 4 blade prop.

The tower is polished aluminum, and weights about 130lbs with speakers and racks.
 

skydiveD30571

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

Got the new prop on and used it this weekend. VERY happy with my choice. I noticed right away the increase in hole shot and decrease in time to plane. Even with 4 people in the boat and pulling a 220lb wakeboarder, the nose lays down after 2-3 seconds and its off to the races! Gripping and handling is also much better. Rpm's are 4700 with a light load, and about 4500 with a normal load. Couldnt ask for better!

Sadly, when replacing the prop, I noticed the prop shaft looks bent :mad: there's no play in it, but when turning it with my hand I can see it kind of doing a small orbit motion where the shaft enters the seal. If its not one thing...
 

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

I am both happy and sad for you! Glad you had a good time before having to start worrying about the prop shaft :(

What lake were you on (asked the Wichita native)?
 

skydiveD30571

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Re: Will a new prop gain back my lost rpm?

I went to little Eureka Lake this weekend. A buddy's family has a cabin there. I really enjoyed it, nice and not busy at all. As for the prop shaft bend, I'm pretty sure it happened at eldorado when I hit a tree late last year (surprise surprise). Aluminum prop which took a bite out of a blade and bent it pretty good. Replaced prop and didn't think much else of it. It does vibrate more than it should, and now that I'm learning more and more I knew what to look for when putting on my new prop. Looks like a hefty bill coming up...
 
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