Why? RPM Question.

commonarcwelder

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Hi guys. Ive always heard that it was neccesary to run an outboard in a specified RPM range. i.e. 5000-6000 RPM or it wouldnt last long. Can ya'll give me a little insight on this?
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

it is not that you have to run the motor at those rpms. it is that you have to prop the motor to run those rpms, at wide open throttle. that way when running lower rpms you are not lugging the motor, thus putting excess strain and wear on the motor.
 

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

Look at it this way...

If you're driving a pickup truck, towing a large, heavy trailer, going up hill, you would down shift to bring your RPM up and relieve the stress on the engine. If you didn't, that stress would result in pinging and possibly burning up the engine. Once you've crested the hill you would upshift once more to your regular crusing gear and bring the RPM down. It takes less power to go on a flat surface or downhill than it does uphill. Well, in a boat you are ALWAYS going up hill, so you need to leave it in a "downshift position", ie. a prop that allows the RPM to come up to a point where the motor isn't working as hard to maintain the top speed. It may sound counterintuitive, but a motor running at 5500 RPM and 40MPH is not working as hard as the same motor running at 4500 RPM and 40MPH (with a higher pitch prop). The 4500 RPM motor is lugging, .ie running uphill in high gear. The 5500 RPM motor is not lugging, .ie has been downshifted. It makes less heat and runs more efficiently. Less heat also means less coking (buildup of carbon on the piston dome and ring lands).

Not sure if that helps, but I hope it does...

- Scott
 

commonarcwelder

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

I see. Very well put guys! I was wondering this because on my boat i'm running a 31p but rarely ever go over about 4500 RPM's especially with my wife and kids in the boat (it will do 6000 in no time from 4500 RPM's) So i'm good then, right?
 

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

Depends on what motor you have. Check on the factory reccommended full throttle RPM for your specific motor. 6000 would be over-revving an older motor that was designed to run WOT at 4500. Some have better blancing than others, and some have higher recriprocating loads than others. Again, get the specs for yours.

And on the same subject, different engines develop their maximum horsepower at different RPMs. The horsepower (and torque) can be shown as a curve on a graph. Topping out at significantly above or below the peak on the curve means you are not getting your maximum design horsepower.
 

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

It makes it's max horsepower at 5500 RPM. It should be propped to run 5000-6000 RPM at full throttle.
 
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Re: Why? RPM Question.

great answers does this mean if you cant get rpm and everything else is ok you should reprop which way for too low rpm less pitch or dia

sorry to tag along on this post just thought was place
 

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

If you can't get rated rpm the first thing is to check tune up, compression, spark quality. Make sure the motor is in good shape and tuned correctly.

Never assume anything, the prop 'could' be correct, the motor just needs a little TLC.

THEN, if it still does not coome up, check the boat, is it overloaded, soggy foam flotation?

Many things can lower performance, prop selection once done on a new craft rarely becomes an issue again, unless someone has changed it.
 
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Re: Why? RPM Question.

thanks for the reply . however i have just installed a older 72 evinrude 50 hp
on a 18ft alum boat bass tracker scraped out the original motor 120 jet and not sure what prop will be needed but rpms are way low 35-38 motor seems to run out good speedometer does not work or i am not achieving enough speed i am not looking for max speed or anything like it just don't want to damage motor only want something to fish small lakes am satisfied with speed with throttle wide open just don't want to damage something previous posts indicate this
 

Cricket Too

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

Look inside the prop around the hub, there should be some numbers inside there.
 

commonarcwelder

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

Ive had some aftermarkets that were stamped on the back of the prop. May pull it and find it.
 
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Re: Why? RPM Question.

sorry for the delayed answer prop on boat now is michigan 011002
which cross over to a 13 3/4 x 15 not sure what way to go dont have lots of funds so cant buy a bunch of props to try notice listing for this engine
72 50 hp elcetric thru exhaust has eight different sizes to refresh the problem low rpm on a 18 ft bass tracker alumin mostly flat bottom not looking for speed but dont want to hurt engine either present rpm 35-38

thanks
 

Cricket Too

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Re: Why? RPM Question.

I could be wrong but a 13 3/4 X15 prop sounds to me like a V4 prop, and you said your running it on a 50hp, which I assume is a 2 cylinder, correct?

I would think that prop is too big for that engine.
 
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Re: Why? RPM Question.

yes it a 2 cyl but it is one that is listed for this engine
dont know much about props but it seems to be the second one up in size
lot bigger i guess ones

thats why i need help decideing
 
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