what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

ziggy

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hi folks. a fella on ebay is sellin his outdrive. i'm wondering what questions i should ask him about the drive. i can only think of 2 or 3.<br />1. when was the lub changed last and what was it like. new?, milky? metal shaveings?<br />2. has it been pressure tested?<br />3. is this a modle 1 drive? (clymers says it is for a 79 165)<br /><br />my delima is this. my drive (72 mercrusier 165, model 1)has 2 or 3 issues. one is it needs a new lower drive shaft for an oil seal wear pattern. and 2 is it only holds about 8 psi. and 3 is a broke vent plate. i reckon it needs seals here soon and it just needs to be gone thru in general and who knows what i will find. i'm thinkin i aint gonna get away for less than a grand for fixin what i got. looked like this might be an option. i'm just leary of ebay stuff and havent bought much there. the drive sure looks black and new and so do the stickers. that worries me a little too.i suppose he could have just takein good care of it, but i'm a pesimist....any opinions or good questions i might ask of him before i decide to bid or not? <br />heres the link to it.<br /> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4603470868&indexURL=0#ebayphotohosting
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

ziggy, ive bought 3 outboards on ebay and a slew of other stuff and of got stiffed on one item the seller never sent. i would want to know how long it's been sitting. good luck. if nothing else maybe you can make one good one out of two.
 

javsam

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

pretty risky paying a large amount of cash for an ebay item,there are alot of skammers. and, I too have gotten stiffed from an ebay seller.<br />javsam
 

waterone1@aol.com

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

The one question I would ask (in writing via email) do you guarantee that the drive will arrive in working condition ?
 

Don S

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

I get drives all the time to "Check Out" after someone bought a supposedly "GOOD" drive, only to find it was nothing but a way for them to get rid of junk.<br />Think about it, they were pulled off a boat for some reason, and it's usually becauses the engine and drive were replaced because it was worn out or didn't work.
 

craze1cars

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

On a drive that old, I'd guesstimate it likely has similar wear and age problems to yours, he just doesn't realize it. It sounds like yours is perfectly functional but could stand to have a good rebuild/reseal with a few new parts. Why not just do that? Then you'll know EXACTLY what you have.<br /><br />Or buy a fully remanufactured unit for yourself and put YOUR outdrive on Ebay with an honest description? As it does work, I promise you'll still get good money for it.<br /><br />Another observation is that he has a reserve on the auction. In my Ebay experience, reserve auctions often have reserve prices that are MUCH higher than you're probably willing to pay, so you won't win the bid anyway.<br /><br />Third, outdrive rebuilders eat these things up on Ebay so they can get good cores and spare parts to put in other drives. So you're going to be bidding against people and businesses who have stockpiles of parts laying around and have a much greater interest in buying this drive than you do. So if it indeed meets reserve, I'd bet it'll go much higher than you think it will.<br /><br />I sold a Bravo outdrive once on Ebay that was insurance company salvage...it was a complete upper and lower unit that had hit a rock so hard it had completely busted up both cases...there were huge cracks and missing chunks taken out. That stupid thing sold for about $800!<br /><br />Of course Bravos are worth much more than what you're looking at, but I think you'll be stunned at how expensive this thing will sell for IF it meets the reserve.<br /><br />If you do win, I'll predict that shipping on this thing is going to eat you alive! The seller only has 2 feedback ratings and he didn't specify ANY type of shipping cost estimate...I'm not convinced that he knows what he's in for either when it comes time to ship this thing and it hits the scales at the local UPS store! If you can pick up in person this problem won't rear it's head, but if Texas is too far for you, I know UPS would likely be charging somewhere in the hundreds of dollars to move something that heavy. The Bravo drive I sold I largely disassembled it and shipped in 3 separate boxes to keep costs a bit more reasonable, it was still over $100 to move it across the country.<br /><br />He has no serial number listed. Outdrives are easy to steal and are all over the black market. What are the sellers guarantees that this drive is not "hot?" And what recourse will you have if you win it and he ships you a drive with the serial number filed off?<br /><br />Not trying to scare ya, as it's probably perfectly legit as he described it, but you just never know...<br /><br />Ebay's a funny thing...it takes some experience to figure it out on higher dollar items. Good luck with whatever you decide!
 

ziggy

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

thanks for all the comments. jeeze. not one perticularly good comment ebay. i have not brought myself to bid on anything high dollar on ebay. for some of the reasons stated above. so i guess unless someone comes along and has some good reason i think i will not bid. it may be a perfectly good drive, and i don't know that and don't seem anyway i can find out. so without knowing that i guess it'd be wiser to sink what little bread i got into repairing what i got.... thanks for the comments. ya all probably saved me from being all bummed out with 2 half spent drives on hand.....
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: what ?'s to ask an ebay seller

Ebay is of course a GREAT place to sell something. If you know what you're buying it can be a pretty good place to buy. (if you're buying something new and it has a warranty)<br /><br />With things like engines, outdrives etc. You cannot see inside. Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware)<br /><br />I'll second the suggestion that you either buy a rebuilt one or have yours rebuilt. <br /><br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />Rick
 
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