what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

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On the way back from duck hunting to day ,I stoped off at a backwoods type lawn mower shop just to see if he had any perssure tanks laying around.
Well he had alot more than that.
This is only some of what he had for sale.
2..evinrude big twins (25034-10807)# only off of one.

2.. evinrude 7.5's (7518-35970)#only off of one

1..baracuda 5.1c.i (model#99 s# 1994)

2.. 5hp johnsons (built in gas tanks)I could not find any #'s

1..johnson 30hp (rd-18 - 1338197)

He also had motors in another shed (maybe about 10 or so ) from about 1913 to 1957.
He say's he'll sell the 7.5 as a pair for $200.(they are not froze)
and any other motors each, for $150. to $200. but folled up with that he likes to trade..
He still had motors in his bigger shop up stairs that I noticed too.
But he will not sell any tanks???????
So what are your suggestions? I have no boat to put any motor on yet so I could gear the boat choice aroud the motor at this point....

 

[DJ]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

Many of the motors can be converted to single line systems. Unless, you're a purist and need "original" equipment.

I have a '57' Evin. 7.5 and it runs like the day it was new. Pretty strong for a 7.5. It will easily plane a 12-14' aluminum boat.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

Here's my suggestions along with a little experience:
* My favorite motor is a '57 or '58 johnson or evinrude 18hp.
WHy? THey're good on gas, lightweight, strong lower units, and the best looking ever built to me, along with great power for 2 people and some gear. Very easy cranking, smooth idling, nice power to get up on plane.
* Any of the 10hp motors are great on a 14 foot alum. boat for 1 person, but a little weak for 2 people and some gear.

* As far as the big twins, they're gas guzzlers but if that's not a problem, the '55 and up have sealed cowls and are much quieter, and have rubber powerhead mounts which cut down on vibration. If gas prices aren't a problem, then I'd go with a '55 25hp or a '57 35hp johnson if I got a big twin. I did use my '54 evin. 25hp today and it was great, not bad vibration, and the noise wasn't that bad but not that great either. They have great power and mine pushed my 15foot duracraft jon boat 27.9mph on a choppy lake today (measured by GPS). It can push a lot of hunting partners and gear, too. If you had some chunky duck hunting buddies, the big twin would be the way to go.

* I love all the 15 and 18 hp motors of the 50's, but the '55 and up have sealed cowls and vibration dampening which I like. You can't go wrong with any of them.

The 7.5's are weak sisters and I don't like them as much as my 10's. They sure do run smooth and idle great. Nice and light, too.
I wouldn't get a '58 10hp unless I really thought it was low hours and had good gear oil with no water in it after it ran for a while in the barrel because the lower units aren't as good as the previous models which had lowers very similar in strength to the 18hp motors.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

i wouldnt mind the 30hp or 25hp for my toon sheesh



maybe u could get a boat that would run twin 7.5 for the heck of it and videotape it and show us be pretty cool

 

[coolguy147]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

Here's my suggestions along with a little experience:
* My favorite motor is a '57 or '58 johnson or evinrude 18hp.
WHy? THey're good on gas, lightweight, strong lower units, and the best looking ever built to me, along with great power for 2 people and some gear. Very easy cranking, smooth idling, nice power to get up on plane.
* Any of the 10hp motors are great on a 14 foot alum. boat for 1 person, but a little weak for 2 people and some gear.

* As far as the big twins, they're gas guzzlers but if that's not a problem, the '55 and up have sealed cowls and are much quieter, and have rubber powerhead mounts which cut down on vibration. If gas prices aren't a problem, then I'd go with a '55 25hp or a '57 35hp johnson if I got a big twin. I did use my '54 evin. 25hp today and it was great, not bad vibration, and the noise wasn't that bad but not that great either. They have great power and mine pushed my 15foot duracraft jon boat 27.9mph on a choppy lake today (measured by GPS). It can push a lot of hunting partners and gear, too. If you had some chunky duck hunting buddies, the big twin would be the way to go.

* I love all the 15 and 18 hp motors of the 50's, but the '55 and up have sealed cowls and vibration dampening which I like. You can't go wrong with any of them.

The 7.5's are weak sisters and I don't like them as much as my 10's. They sure do run smooth and idle great. Nice and light, too.
I wouldn't get a '58 10hp unless I really thought it was low hours and had good gear oil with no water in it after it ran for a while in the barrel because the lower units aren't as good as the previous models which had lowers very similar in strength to the 18hp motors.

what about the 59 10 horse model about the lower unit? i do believe they were the same?

 

[jbjennings]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

You'll have to ask someone that really knows what they're talking about like F-R, Coolguy, but I'm thinking from reading previous F-R posts, that they made some subtle changes in the bushings and such for '59 that made them quite a bit better. I do know that F-R has said that even the '58 has a decent lower unit if you keep them sealed good and don't run them with water in them.

 

[DJ]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

I compare my '57' 7.5 to my '75' 6.0. The 7.5 will run circles around the 6.0. Alot of difference for 1.5 HP difference in rating. And, yes the 7.5 does troll like a dream.

Yea, I wouldn't compare a 7.5 to a 10. The 10's were very strong, for a 10.

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

Evinrude and Johnson are the same thing, from '56 and later, just different paint and engine shrounds. You just have to see something that you like the looks of it and go with it. Johnson used green, holiday bronze and white, mostly and Evinrude used silver, blue and white. When you strip all the paint off, though, it's all the same. The motors built prior to 1955 will have some differences. Motors built before 1949 will have even more differences, but they're all pretty good.

The 7.5's are good motors. The 30 is a good motor. The 5's may be the late 40's - early 50's which were good, but getting harder to find parts for.

You also want to consider what kind of boat you want to operate too. That 30 would work nice on a 14 foot fiberglass boat, with remote controls attached. It looks like the others you named would work on a 12-14 foot aluminum boat.

 

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Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

just to be clear.
I have a 59" evin 10hp and the 56"15hp jonny.
In my other post I mentioned I have a chance at a 54"10 hp jonny ( qd-15 1123321) for $100.bucks .Which by the way while in between the last few posts,
the guy with the motor came over with it to show me.
The motor is vary clean! all decales / instuctions are still intact and the motor had no corrtion around any gaskets or flanges. here was no water in lower unit ( i think im going get it ).
COOLGUY147,.. so would a 54 hp have the better lower unit?
Im gonna get it anyway, just thought i'd ask.
i will get the two 7.5 hp in march if they are still there. unless some one else in sacramento califrona finds them first.

 

[wbeaton]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

Any of the Johnson/Evinrudes are good choices. I'd stay away from the 5 hp's with the built in tanks. I too would choose the 7.5 hp's even though the 10 hp's are my favourites. The 7518 is a 1955 and one of the first motors I bought when I started collecting.

They changed the lower unit in 1958. 1958 to about 1961 share the same lower unit and associated problem. The 1954 is a good motor.

 

[F_R]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

You'll have to ask someone that really knows what they're talking about like F-R, Coolguy, but I'm thinking from reading previous F-R posts, that they made some subtle changes in the bushings and such for '59 that made them quite a bit better. I do know that F-R has said that even the '58 has a decent lower unit if you keep them sealed good and don't run them with water in them.

The '58 - '63 10hp and '64 - up 9.5hp motors all have similar lower units. They are similar but not same as the 7.5hp. They are fine if you don't run them full of water. But no lower unit will last long anyway if abused like that.

The 10hp up through 1957 used a lower unit similar but not same as the 15 and 18hp motors. Some think that makes them tougher, possibly rightly so.

I gotta add though--- That lower unit change on the 10hp included an isolated drive shaft from the water pump clear up to the powerhead. That corrects a big problem with the earler models where the shaft ran in the exhaust and hot water. Many a motor has suffered death because the environment around the shafts has resulted in crankshaft seal failure and water intrusion into the powerhead. And/or rusted out splines.

Given an equal choice between the two styles, I'll take the '58-up, thank you. In fact if you want to narrow it down further, I say the all time best motor in the 10hp range was the 1962-63 Evinrude Sportwin. Evinrude over Johnson because Evinrude had a better, tighter, less rattley hood. OK, OK, so it is the fiberglass hood. To each his own.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

I compare my '57' 7.5 to my '75' 6.0. The 7.5 will run circles around the 6.0. Alot of difference for 1.5 HP difference in rating. And, yes the 7.5 does troll like a dream.

Yea, I wouldn't compare a 7.5 to a 10. The 10's were very strong, for a 10.

my ten got lots of torque

 

[coolguy147]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

The '58 - '63 10hp and '64 - up 9.5hp motors all have similar lower units. They are similar but not same as the 7.5hp. They are fine if you don't run them full of water. But no lower unit will last long anyway if abused like that.

The 10hp up through 1957 used a lower unit similar but not same as the 15 and 18hp motors. Some think that makes them tougher, possibly rightly so.

I gotta add though--- That lower unit change on the 10hp included an isolated drive shaft from the water pump clear up to the powerhead. That corrects a big problem with the earler models where the shaft ran in the exhaust and hot water. Many a motor has suffered death because the environment around the shafts has resulted in crankshaft seal failure and water intrusion into the powerhead. And/or rusted out splines.

Given an equal choice between the two styles, I'll take the '58-up, thank you. In fact if you want to narrow it down further, I say the all time best motor in the 10hp range was the 1962-63 Evinrude Sportwin. Evinrude over Johnson because Evinrude had a better, tighter, less rattley hood. OK, OK, so it is the fiberglass hood. To each his own.

yes ur right the driveshaft is isolated from the rest of the exhaust and mine is perfectly clean when i pulled it out. only was a slight spot of rust which i rubbed wd40 on. the spot was about 1/4-1/2 "

i like all the motors from 59-64 i believe cause after that the 9.5 looked funny and were hard to maitain i guess. it was really compact really. but if its 20-35hp i stick with it if its good and avaible parts

 

[coolguy147]

Re: what motor to get?????..evinrude or johnson

maybe a 18 for my john boat