want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

madramire

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I have a Johnson 140 hp V4 SeasHorse. It's a 1984 model according to BRP: Model no: JE140TLCRD

I got some oil with the boat for the engine, but I want to be 100% sure that the oil is correct as it was only the guy who sold the boat and not a mechanic that gave the oil.

Is it 2 stroke oil I use or is it another type of oil for this Engine?

Thanks.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

Model JE140TLCRD is indeed a 1984 140hp Johnson. It is a two (2) stroke engine. You should use TCW-III 50/1 oil of a high quality brand name.

Is the VRO still hooked up and functioning or has it been eliminated so that the engine will be using pre-mixed fuel?
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

it needs to say TC-W3 outboard motor oil, you mix it 50 parts gas 1 part oil. the synthetic burns cleaner, but the Walmart Super Tech, meets the same guidelines, for less $$$.
 

madramire

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Re: want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

wow, super fast replies.

I'm actually in Ireland, so the oil will have to be imported perhaps, I will contact my local chandlers and ask if they have that oil in stock and check the Evinrude Oil bottles I have.

THe oil is desposited into it's own tank, which has a primer bulb on it, connect I presume to the engine. I'm not a mechanic so I can't be more specific.

I don't know the accronyms too well on here so not sure what VRO means :( sorry. Real newbie at this guys. All help really appreciated. I simply don't want to ruin my engine and not easy to find a Marine Repair Shop here that can service these engines.

Thanks again, the engine runs nicely, but I think, depsite 12.3V in the battery, it might need either a charge in the marine battery or a new Deep Cycle. It can also run rough at times and the nrpms drop on idle, after about 5 minutes the engine cuts, but starts straight again straight away.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

The VRO is a large black plastic pump that automatically mixes the gasoline and oil to its proper mixture, depending on the rpm. If memory serves me correctly, VRO stands for Variable Ratio Oil.... something of that nature. The 1984 model was the very first year that the VRO came into the picture, and it had absolutely no warning system. The latest upgrade would have a small wiring harness attached to the rear portion of the VRO leading to a rubber plug connector, and there should be four wires.


When the VRO functions as it should, it's great. When it does not, and the warning system is not functioning properly...... well, you have a good idea what happens to a engine that is running with no oil or not enough oil. The following may be of help to you.

(Priming The VRO Pump)
(J. Reeves)

When hooking up or installing a VRO whether it is a new or original VRO pump, it must be primed in order to dispel any air that might be in the oil line.

Have the Oil line attached to the engine fitting BUT detached from the VRO. Add a piece of fuel hose if necessary to the oil line so that it can be aimed into some sort of container.

Pump the oil primer bulb, catching the oil flowing out of the line into the container until you are absolutely sure that you have rid the oil line of every bit of air that might have been trapped there.

Now, connect the oil line to the VRO and secure it. When the oil line is secured, apply pressure to the oil primer bulb ONE TIME only. That's it.

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(VRO Changeover Judgement Call)
(J. Reeves)

The VROs first came out in 1984 and have been upgraded quite a few times. In my opinion, back around 1988, they had perfected them but I think that they were upgraded even more since then. As long as the warning system is operating as it should, I feel quite at ease with them.

Some boaters have voiced their thoughts such as "What if that overpriced plastic horn should fail while I'm under way for some reason, and the VRO decides to fail five minutes later?" Obviously that would result in a big problem which really brings their fears into view.

The word "ease" is the key word though. If one has the slightest feeling of being ill at ease with that setup, then they should take the route they feel more at ease with. A judgement call each individual would need to make on their own.

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(VRO Pump Conversion To Straight Fuel Pump)
(J. Reeves)

You can convert the VRO pump into a straight fuel pump, eliminating the oil tank and VRO pump warning system, but retain the overheat warning setup (and fuel restriction warning if so equipped) by doing the following:

1 - Cut and plug the oil line at the engine so that the oil side of the VRO pump will not draw air into its system. Trace the wires from the back of the VRO to its rubber plug (electrical plug) and disconnect it.

2 - Trace the two wires from the oil tank to the engine, disconnect those two wires, then remove them and the oil tank.

3 - Mix the 50/1 oil in the proper amount with whatever quantity fuel you have. Disconnect the fuel line at the engine. Pump the fuel primer bulb until fuel exits that hose with the tint of whatever oil you used. Reconnect the fuel hose.

That's it. If you want to test the heat warning system to ease your mind, have the key in the on position, then ground out the tan heat sensor wire that you'll find protruding from the cylinder head. The warning horn should sound off.
 

madramire

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Re: want to know what oil to use with my Engine Model

i just remembered that to the right of the oil tanks there is an electrical circuit in a black case, and perhaps this is the VRO Joe is mentioning. THere are wires coming out of it and I think it is connected to the oil tank, I will have to look again tomorrow evening when there is light again and take a photo too.

THis is getting interesting now.
 
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