Re: Vulcarity
It isnt going to fly, but not because of freddom of speech issues. It is not legal to fine children that attend public schools. Public schools have to remain free, totally free. No part of $130 is going to fit inside of free, no matter how they try to justify it. Besides, its already been tried in California. Didnt fly here for that very reason. Kids here were having to give their lunch money to the school to pay the fines, then they were without lunch. Fed law mandates any kid without a means to provide their own lunch must immediately be given a free lunch by school. In essence, the burden of paying a kids fine ultimately trickled down to the taxpayers since they pay for all those free lunches.<br /><br />Fwiw, thru legal precedence it is well established that a public school is a childs surrogate parent during school hours. If my kid came home with a $130 fine for something that happened during school hours, I would send the notice back to the principle with a note suggesting that if he/she doesnt have the money to pay the kids fine maybe they can workout a payment plan with the school district.<br /><br />Regarding the freedom of speech, there are a couple of organizations that monitors our (the USs) freedoms, and lack there of, globally. They rank the US at something like 11th place in the world for freedom of speech/press/expression. We lost points for stuff like laws that make what you say a punishable hate crime, tho no one was hated and no crime was actually committed, that kind of thing. We rank 15th place for property rights because of minor things like, if you get behind in your property taxes your home can be taken away. Creditors can force you into bankruptcy and seize assets that were not collateral and had nothing to do with the original debts. Or if you are just accused of anything to do with narcotics your assets can be seized and forfeited without due process stuff like that. All in all, not too bad, I think. If there are 150 countries in the world, I guess we are still in the top 10% for freedoms although South Korea had us whooped in almost every category of freedom. That hurt.
It isnt going to fly, but not because of freddom of speech issues. It is not legal to fine children that attend public schools. Public schools have to remain free, totally free. No part of $130 is going to fit inside of free, no matter how they try to justify it. Besides, its already been tried in California. Didnt fly here for that very reason. Kids here were having to give their lunch money to the school to pay the fines, then they were without lunch. Fed law mandates any kid without a means to provide their own lunch must immediately be given a free lunch by school. In essence, the burden of paying a kids fine ultimately trickled down to the taxpayers since they pay for all those free lunches.<br /><br />Fwiw, thru legal precedence it is well established that a public school is a childs surrogate parent during school hours. If my kid came home with a $130 fine for something that happened during school hours, I would send the notice back to the principle with a note suggesting that if he/she doesnt have the money to pay the kids fine maybe they can workout a payment plan with the school district.<br /><br />Regarding the freedom of speech, there are a couple of organizations that monitors our (the USs) freedoms, and lack there of, globally. They rank the US at something like 11th place in the world for freedom of speech/press/expression. We lost points for stuff like laws that make what you say a punishable hate crime, tho no one was hated and no crime was actually committed, that kind of thing. We rank 15th place for property rights because of minor things like, if you get behind in your property taxes your home can be taken away. Creditors can force you into bankruptcy and seize assets that were not collateral and had nothing to do with the original debts. Or if you are just accused of anything to do with narcotics your assets can be seized and forfeited without due process stuff like that. All in all, not too bad, I think. If there are 150 countries in the world, I guess we are still in the top 10% for freedoms although South Korea had us whooped in almost every category of freedom. That hurt.