Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

[Heller1]

Looks like the starter rusted out on my 2005 volvo penta 3.0GL motor with 14 hours. Volvo wont cover it under warranty(no surprise) The dealer wants $400 for a new one, I can do it myself, just need to know what starter to get. Looks like there are a few different ones depending on flywheel size. Anyone know the Original part number for a 2005 3.0GL volvo penta starter?

Thanks,
Ron

 

[zzzzz]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

part number is 3587625 8)

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

WHY won't Volvo cover it under warranty? The only reason I know they wouldn't cover it is for water intrusion or corrosion from water.
Also, Volvo doesn't list engines by year, they go by either the serial number or the FULL model number, and you only posted the first part of the model number.
However, for the starter, it doesn't matter, they all use the same one, PN 3587625

 

[Heller1]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

thanks guys...I dont know why they wont cover it, seems a little ridiculous to me. The starter has never been in water, spends 85% of its life on a covered boat lift.

Ron

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Why don't you ask them WHY? ? ? ? ?
Sounds like Volvo didn't refuse it, more like a Volvo dealer didn't want to.

 

[Heller1]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Well, the dealer said its a known problem on the 3.0 because the starter is mounted low and must get water splashed up on it regularily. They have fought with volvo about this many times they said with no luck. Volvo will not cover it because it mafunctioned due to rust.

Ron

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Missed the point about rusted starter in your original post, but just so you understand the problem, that starter doesn't sit any different on a Volvo 3.0L engine now as it has on the OMC and Merc 3.0L engines of 20 years ago. It's also the same height as on a Chevy IL6, V6 and V8 engine.
When those starters get water in them, there is a reason. Usually it's because of water in the bilge. It gets into the flywheel housing and the flywheel throws the water around the inside of the housing. Also in that housinhg is the starter end with the bendix and shaft. You get them rusty, and the bendix won't work. Of course Volvo, Merc, nor any other engine marinizer is going to warrant water.
What you need to do is get a bilge pump of some kind with a float switch or other automatic pump that will keep the water out of the bilge.

 

[Heller1]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

there has never been more than maybe 3-4 inches of water in the bilge area. I check this every week. Nothing has ever come close to the starter! I am going to get it back and take a look for myself, this sounds a little strange to me and $400 for a starter is ridiculous,! I can get one for under $150 and easily install it myself...

Ron

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

there has never been more than maybe 3-4 inches of water in the bilge area

There's the answer to the question. While 3-4" of water isn't much when the boat is just sitting there, when you are taking off and starting up on plane the bow is high and the water all goes to the back. Gets in the flywheel housing and Bingo. Rusty starter.
You shouldn't have that much water in there at anytime. You REALLY need to get an automatic bilge pump under the back of the engine. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than a starter.
And be sure that $150 starter is marine, and you can use the bracket used on the front of the starter. Otherwise you are going to have more problems.

Your posts so far seem to be more of a complaint about Volvo not covering a rusty starter (Not their problem) and, that it costs so much for a Volvo starter. No wonder when people try to get warranty for parts that have water intrusion, rust and corrosion.

 

[Heller1]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

well..i do have an auto bilge that goes off when there is approx. 4" of water in the back. And if you knew my boat, you would understand that there is a trough that sits about 2" lower than the rest. You dont seem to understand that when i say there is no way water hit the flywheel, i mean there is no way. My guess is it is from sitting during the fall and early spring with the cover on. I aint here to complain about volvo, i was here to get a part number for the starter, which you gave me and i appreciate it. I have no problem doing the work myself, but dont sit there and make me look like a crybaby when I dont believe the starter is able to handle the elements. I appreciate your help, but your other comments, i dont need or want.

 

[ron7000]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Heller, click on my username and send me an email if you can. I can send you some starter manufacturer info and you can find out how to get a replacement starter for even less than what you posted. What you need is a delco PMGR (permanent magnet gear reduction) PG260 starter. The info I send you will explain how the marine industry is f.o.s. The PG260 has been thru various designs- PG260F1, PG260F2, G, L, and M being the latest I think. My 3.0L mercruiser in a 2002 boat comes up as a PG260F1 under mercurypartsexpress which is incorrect, it's actually a PG260G. I just went thru the expense of a new starter, actually just needed a new solenoid for the old one but the starter industry is set up such that they make you get a whole new starter now for $100+ instead of letting you just buy a $20 solenoid. Also know that if the slave solenoid is at all bad, they can kill the solenoid on the starter which is I think what happened to mine.
For prices check out http://stores.ebay.com/Discount-Starter-and-Alternator.

 

[DHPMARINE]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Check what they sell here at Iboats for starters.$400 seems way high.

At my shop,I've been dealing with Arcomarine,and I could probably sell you the starter for less than $200.

NO I Will not sell you one,that's not why I'm here.I just like this site.Buy your own.

DHP

 

[sssouter]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

I think we're having this same problem. I must admit that we never run the bilge pump becuase we've never seen an accumulation of water either. We've had to replace the starter once and are already having Bendix problems with the second.

Do most people just run their bildge pumps all the time? What does Volvo recommend?

Thx
Scott

 

[chiefalen]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

db electrical on ebay i bought starters from them plenty. Good people but only one year warranty.

Listen before you install it maybe 5 minutes to pull the old one 5 minutes to install the new one, Paint the hell out of it.

I coated mine 3 times.

Don't even think of putting a auto starter in it.

I feel your pain.

But 70 bucks with db with shipping.

 

[Span 24]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

I know that this is an old thread. However, having recently been faced with replacing the starter in my 5 year old boat for the same outrageous price I just have to ask the question:

If the 'marine' starter can handle no more moisture than a standard auto starter and the 'marine' starter warranty is voided by water intrusion why the heck would I pay three times the cost to use the 'marine' starter?

I mean, I guess I'm looking for someone out there to try to tell me that the starter on your automobile engine never gets wet. I've seen automobiles that have hundreds of thousands of miles on them, washed dozens of times per year at those fancy 'drive through', fully automatic car washes which mist water everywhere and these cars still have the original starter. Can't the marine industry make one which can handle a little sloshing in the bilge once in a while?

Other than the uber-expensive price, just what is it that makes a 'marine' starter, uuuuh, 'marine'?

Thanx in advance!!

 

[bruceb58]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

Spark shielding to keep from igniting fuel vapors.

 

[Don S]

Re: Volvo Penta 3.0 Starter

It has nothing to do with getting wet, it's all about sheilding in the starter to prevent any possible gas fumes in the bilge from igniting.
If you have new info, start a new thread, don't just drag up 3 year old posts.