Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

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jhb

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New to the forum, need help to replace the universal joint bellow on my volvo 270. In the book it states that the 2 allen head bolts on the helmet have a sleeve inside that needs pulled out with a bent tool that looks like an allen wrench. Dont have tool any suggestions how to get this sleeve out? Any advice on this project would be very appreciated. I am desent backyard mechanic but new to this volvo penta.
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Not sure what sleeve needs pulled out, but here is how you pull the pins with 4 holes.
If you are unlucky enough to have one without the 2 small threaded holes, they can be a problem. There is no tool that I am aware of for those pins. I have been to the Volvo tech schools and never seen one. What I have done is used heat and penetrating oil with a home made tool to turn the pin and free it up. Then you can pull it with some pointed vice grips.

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Thanks, Exact picture of my boat. Do the 1/4 by #20 bolts go into the small holes and then do I pull outward? My Seloc manual does not give good details. I appreciate your help. Thanks, John
 

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My Seloc manual does not give good details.
:eek:

No wonder your discription made no sense.

You do realize you don't have to pull the complete drive to change the bellows don't you????

When you thread the 1/4-20 screws in place, screw them in till they lift the pin out. They will be putting pressure against the upper gear box to lift the pin up out of the hole.

Exact picture of my boat.
If it is, then you don't have a 270 outdrive. Normally the 270's always had a pin in the helmut that screwed in, not held in with 2 bolts. I thought that odd right to start with.
Are you sure someone didn't just replace the back cover and it said 270 on it?
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Yes, I was going to pull the entire drive. That is the way it reads in the Seloc book that I was using but it specially does not have a section just on the bellows change but this section to remove the stern drive shows the installation of the bellows. I am open to any better way to get it done.
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

trust me you need to listen to Don s thanks to him and others i have just removed my engine(aq130a) and changed bellhousing and bellows on my 270(which i thought was 250)leg and all i did was remove the upper unit and there is only one bolt on the helmut of the 270(at least there is on mine) no need to remove the whole leg
 

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Make sure everything stays clean, and don't loose the shims between the upper and intermediate housing.
It's actually a very easy job after you do it once.

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Great advise, thanks. I have the new bellow on and had quick question. Universal joints have some rusty but turn and move freely seem to be in good shape. On upper housing I took off do I need to use permatex or gasket, dont see one.
thanks, John
 

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You have two orings that MUST be replaced. Then a very light coat of permatex on the surface. (the Permatex is for corrosion prevention, not sealing).
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Don,
What color peratex do you recommend. I have ultra blue on hand?
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Make sure everything stays clean, and don't loose the shims between the upper and intermediate housing.
It's actually a very easy job after you do it once.

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OMG Don you saved me a whole bunch of money on my bellows project. It was very easy to change and to think the dealer wanted 8oo.oo. I am thinking about getting a new boat but one thing for sure it wont be from a dealer who charges 350.00 an hour for labor. Thanks again and good boating Mike Spokane
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Hey Don & JHB,

I posted in reply to this post because I am having similiar issues. I'm brand new to the forums and this is my first boat project with the exception of my john boat when I was a kid. I've been reading the forums while working on my new project and they've been a big help. I have been completely redoing my father's 1986 Bayliner with an Volvo Penta AQ 125 B engine and a 270 outdrive.

So Far I've taken apart the entire upper engine, sanded, wirebrushed, degreased, cleaned, painted, oiled, lubed, and/or replaced every part, nut, bolt, belt, filter, gasket, hose, wire, and spring. I got the head a valve job, replaced the exhaust manifold, installed an electronic ignition, put it back together, and changed the oil. Fun times. I think I'm getting close.

I've read up on and seen the diagrams concerning replacing the upper and lower bellows on the outdrive but I've run into a road block. I saw that it is possible to just remove the gear box to replace the bellows. I followed the diagram and successfully detached the gear box from the lower outdrive, but have no idea how to detach the gear box from the universal joints. Basically I can't actually pull off the bellows and replace them.

Also, the ujoiunts are kind of rusty, which could be from water in the bellows while running, but is more likely from just sitting all of those years. They seem really sturdy maybe just need to be cleaned up and greased. Trying to avoid pulling the engine and save some money if possible. I know I should also replace the seals and any instruction on that front would help as well.

Just a little history. The boat has been sitting on land since my dad passed in 1995. In 1999 I pulled off what was left of the tarp and got to work. I cleaned it all up, replaced the floor, had the canvas resewn, and repainted the bottom. Then I got it shrink wrapped and went to college.

This summer I started on the engine as earlier mentioned. The next thing to do, in order to hopefully crank her over is to finish replacing these bellows and reconditioning the outdrive.

I realize that there are probably quite few things that I'm missing which is why I'm looking for your input. Oh one last thing, which is probably the biggest problem I might have. I put the engine back together and forgot to put in one small gasket between the head and the water pump. Stupid rooky mistake. When I started to fill the heat exchanger, it started running out of the space of course.

I had already torqued down the cam shaft and head, and filled it with oil. I left the oil in, untorqued the head, and got the gasket in just fine. nice and snug. I refilled the heat exchanger to test it and wasn't losing anything from between water pump and the head. Here's the nightmare part. I didn't have a torque wrench handy, so I lightly tightened the head bolts. When I began pouring anit-freeze/water itno the heat exchanger, I immediatley noticed it starting to seep out between the head and the lower unit on the right side.

I freaked out of course, and tightened down the head bolts. It stopped and is holding water fine. I'm worried about antifreeze/water in the oil, cylinders etc. In the manuals it talks about retorqueing the head bolts after the engine is hot, so I wonder if maybe I got lucky, or if I have to flush the systems, or, worst case scernio: I have to pull it all apart, lower engine included and clean it all up, or even worse case scenario: I just killed my boat.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. I hope I am posting this question properly. If not, sorry, I can reposted as a new thread if that is better.

So in summary, 1) I need to know how to separate the gear box from the ujoint to replace the bellows, 2) I need to know how much more work I made fro myself by forgetting that one gasket, 3) I would appreciate any other insight you guys have on this project, 4) Lastly, the oweners manual says to use 10W40 oil in the engine and outdrive. I discovered this after following the forums suggestion to use straight 30. Should I switch to 10W40? And what grease should I use in my grease gun for the outdrive?

I think that's it. At any rate, my apologies for the long post. Hopefully some of these questions will clear up some questions for other members. Thank you guys again for the forums. You guys are life savers.
 

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Re: Volvo 270 universal joint bellow replacement

Start a new thread with YOUR questions, never hijack someone elses thread. It will be lost in no time and few will read it after a couple of replies.
 
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