Video of boat sinking

Bob's Garage

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Re: Video of boat sinking

From what I read of a statement by the owner/operator, they left a hatch open in the engine well after pumping the fuel bulb. Wave action did the rest.
 

aspeck

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Lot's wrong and difficult video to watch. Not sure why they didn't get the engines started and bring her on plane ... why weren't the pumps working? Why weren't they bailing with a little more enthusiasm? Lot's of whys and wonders ... could have saved a nice vessel.
 

cribber

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If they could have gotten the engines fired up and moving in the first few minutes of the video they could have saved that from a capsize to just getting everything wet.
 

zagger

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Lots of whys, maybe they were to busy videotaping instead of saving the boat. Like said above, lots of things done wrong. Wonder if the insurance company has seen this video and what they had to say about it.
 

45Auto

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Video must be faked. Everybody knows outboards can't sink like that. Can't count how many hundreds of threads I've seen on here about how only I/O's have to worry about sinking like that because of leaking bellows. :rolleyes:
 

Fireman431

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Maybe the idea was to have the boat sink. Insurance write off means no more boat payment in a crappy economy. What a coincidence that the would have a camera running the entire time and no one knew how or why the water was coming in, no bilge pumps running, no starting the engines and getting it moving, and no one was the least distressed over it.

...just sayin'...
 

Triton II

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I couldn't watch it all, what a waste of a lovely boat. :(

TII
 

jigngrub

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A line from the Movie Animal House comes to mind..."Drunk, fat, and stupid is no way to go through life!"... Dean Wormer.
 

kahuna123

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You can't pull the plug on a boat like that. More than likely for those that don't know there is no plug. Most boats this size have a brass fitting. As fast as that boat went down there was probably a thru hull that gave out. Or what I believe is a serious design flaw on the model. Do you really believe as fast as water was coming in that running to get on plane was possible? Do the math? How many gallons in the hull at 6 pounds each? Even if you could get on plane do you think a 1 inch plug hole was gonna outrun whatever was letting water in? The pumps were already being overrun. Until you've been there you have no idea what it feels like to be going down 30 miles out without another boat in site. No one wants, especially a diver to float in those waters for an hour. There is a reason he held on to a speargun. The video camera running looks to be a go-pro mask that he was wearing on the dive. Tanks are $400 a piece. Each speargun was at least $500. The electronics on that boat was at least $5000.00 Do you really think he is going to come out ahead on the insurance? If he did not have replacement value and just market value he is going to lose ALOT of money. If you are going to sink a boat there is a much better time and place than that. You can't give a boat away in FL right now.

What should be taken from the video is how the crew reacted and stayed calm enough to make good decisions. Had the right equipment aboard to save their lives. Something similar happened last year to three football players and two of them are dead now.

That's the second Century that size that has gone down in the last year just in this area. The other went down with a full crew and thousands of dollars worth of gear in a spearfishing tournament. They went down just a fast and was a very well maintained boat with a seasoned captain.

http://spearfishingplanet.com/f35/spo-leave-3am-boat-sinks-7am-14919/
 

Home Cookin'

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I bet on a through-hull failure, at the livewell/wash down pump. No way it was a plug out; a bilge pump can handle that, and you can run the water out.
Here's what the Monday-morning quarterbacks don't know: on a 30' center console (so described in the mayday call) bailing the top deck is a useless exercise. All of the water, by then, is below the deck. Same goes with running the water out of the scuppers, unless you have a way to get the water from below decks to topside. For this reason, too, when you are drifting, you are not as likely to notice that you are flooded below deck (unless you have an alarm, or otherwise notice, that your bilge pump is running). if the live well through hull is broken, running the boat is likely to force in more water. So no one I could see was being stupid, nor were they videotaping for fun (the guy just left his mask camera on) nor were they sinking for insurance. That's just ignorant to say that.

There are two troubling aspects, though, which I would attribute to inexperience or panic: Once they found water on the deck they should have pulled the diver up (maybe they did, or maybe they hadn't arranged a signal in advance). They should have tried to run towards shore (30 miles out). But more important: why not have the diver who was down, or one of the others, see what's going on? A piece of cloth even over the hole would have stopped it--the water pressure holds it tight.

Good idea to carry bung plugs and there is a "peanut butter" plug that stops anything. From the comment "what is making us sink" they didn't look in the hatch (access over the through-hull where you close the seacock) to see what is going on.

Winter before last a 22' sank like a stone due to a broken seacock/pump assembly, probably froze/cracked while on the trailer. This was in december. the guy stopped to fish and found himself going down. Luckily a marine patrol was a couple hundred yards away.
 

LoweRider

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Thank you for posting the link for this video. We all need to be reminded what can happen to us on the water. Makes us realize why we should carry, at minimum, all of the required safety gear on board our boats. I'm glad those guys were as prepared as they were, and that everyone returned home safely.
 

Home Cookin'

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If sinking with no help nearby, you want to let loose all the floatable stuff you can--coolers, fenders, cushions, extra PFD's--to make a debris field. this is what the rescuers often find before they see your head (a mere coconut bobbing in the waves). It also gives you more to hang on to.

While a ditch bag is a great idea, realistically, over time, the bag will sink to the bottom of your console, cuddy or other storage and won't be handy in the panicked seconds you have.

If your anchor line is long enough, tie a float to the end of it and jam or tie the achor to the boat. When the boat sinks, you will have a marker for it and may be able to raise it. Last year a 30' boat went down in the bay, probably 20-30 feet deep, and despite the fishing fleet looking for it immediately, it was never found. USCG, who was standing by (and screwed up other aspects) would not tie a bouy to it.
 

kahuna123

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My Dusky had two rule 2000's and each one could outrun two garden hoses but there is no way it could keep up with a bad thru hull or hose. I also seen a lot of older boats down here that stay in the water and people don't make sure the seacocks still work and when they need them they are frozen open. But these two boats where the same model and both were in first class shape, one running one sitting still. Once a boat gets so far the scuppers start running water in and its over.

My Luhrs had a hose from each thru hull to feed water to the cooling systems that were at least 3 inch in dia. I kept a very close eye on them and yes they were double clamped and both seacocks would close with two fingers.
 

cribber

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I rewatched this video and they did everything they could when they guy with the spear gun popped topside and took control. Once saltwater gets to the batteries and the electrics you'll never get the engines fired. Calling mayday was their only option and he did just perfect... location by coordinates, boat length, description, and estimated time left aboard. Also looks like they had an EPIRB and waterproof vhf as well. Whatever the reason for sinking, the captain seemed well prepared and knew exactly what needed to be accomplished to save those onboard.
 
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