US Coast Guard Auxilary

boatradioman

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what does it take to become a US Coast Guard Auxilarist? How do they differ from the active duty/regular coasties.
 

Boatist

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Re: US Coast Guard Auxilary

You have to take their class and then your can sign up. More classes are required but if you have the time you can do it.

How it differs is you are not in the military. You are in a cilivian club. They have no policing authority. You are not paid. Your in a group of people who volinteer their time and boats to help others. I think you can still get some funds to help cover gas and maintenance.

Today I do not belive they even tow boats anymore. At least when I last checked with the Aux here in California they said they no longer tow boats unless the US Coast Guard gives ok. I was supprised at this and ask a few questions. There reply was too many law suites. It seams there are people who act like they have a problem and want a tow in, then durning the tow in will fake an injury and sue the tower. The two AUX members I was asking why they can no longer tow gave some more shocking information. They say if you do tow someone use their roaps. If they do not have a roap then give them a roap. Now you can use their roap to tow them in. Sounds unbelivable but it is what they said.
Other thing they said is if the person being towed does not sue then the places like vessel assist may sue. This is one of the reasons the Coast Guard stop towing in most boats and instead calls someone for you or call vessel assist to come get you.

I replied that I thought there was a law that said if you tow someone to help them you were covered by a good sommaron law and could not be sued. They replied that use to be the case but not anymore. Thing I failed to ask was it this was only in California or applied to the entire us.

Things the Coast Guard Aux still does is boat inspections but if you fail the inspection you get no ticket and they can not stop you from launching. They can call the local police and report you just like anyone can.

They still conduct boating saftey classes.
 

marine4003

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Re: US Coast Guard Auxilary

Around here its comprised of a gaggle of old men who cruise around in a 18-20 foot boat, Not observing no-wakes,acting like the US Navy and generally attempting to overstep there authority,which of course they dont have.Its one thing to be well meaning,provided you have training,experience and can really help a boater in distress,but these idiots define the word CLUELESS.
 

alamosaddles

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Today I do not belive they even tow boats anymore. At least when I last checked with the Aux here in California they said they no longer tow boats unless the US Coast Guard gives ok. There reply was too many law suites. They say if you do tow someone use their roaps. If they do not have a roap then give them a roap. Now you can use their roap to tow them in. Other thing they said is if the person being towed does not sue then the places like vessel assist may sue. This is one of the reasons the Coast Guard stop towing in most boats and instead calls someone for you or call vessel assist to come get you.

The reason for the U.S. Coast Guard not providing a tow service has absolutely nothing to do with getting sued. The U.S. Coast Guards mission is primarily search and rescue, with other duties such as maritime law enforcement, drug and migrant interdiction and marine safety. They are not a towing service. The U.S. Coast Guard will tow a vessel in if it is confiscated for evidence of a crime etc. but not to help out Joe Shmo who failed to charge his batteries etc. Even if your vessel is taking on water, the U.S. Coast Guard is not there to save your boat, they are there to save you. They will rescue you from your sinking vessel, but they will not tow you to save your boat. There may be a rare instance where they may throw you a rope but standing orders are no towing. Lawsuits are not a factor in this decision.

As to "giving" someone a tow rope and then towing them with it, if you think that will absolve you from a negligence suit regarding a tow, that is a very naive position. If you tow someone and they get hurt, you are completely open to civil action and having supplied them with the equipment won't absolve you either.
 

bomar76

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Around here its comprised of a gaggle of old men who cruise around in a 18-20 foot boat, Not observing no-wakes,acting like the US Navy and generally attempting to overstep there authority,which of course they dont have.Its one thing to be well meaning,provided you have training,experience and can really help a boater in distress,but these idiots define the word CLUELESS.



Same group of idiots here...they are a joke.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: US Coast Guard Auxilary

when i was a kid they were nice, and would talk to you at the ramp. i learned alot. i asked one a question about his motor set up a while back, he acted like i did not exist. of course, most of the time i look like i don't have a pot to go in, or a window the throw it out of. but i like it like that, panhandlers leave me alone.
 

haskindm

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I have been a member of the Auxiliary for 24+ years and am sorry that some of you have had bad experiences. For the most part Auxiliarists are dedicated boaters that wish to help those in trouble, provide no cost no legal recourse safety exams of boats, and provide boating safety classes. They are volunteers and receive remuneration only for food and fuel while under orders for the Coast Guard. They are not reimbursed for their boat, equipment, uniforms, or time. There are many mandatory training requirements that must be met prior to participating in any activities. These weed out many of the people that may be joining for the wrong reasons. They do not receive credit for their time toward military retirement and membership in the Auxiliary does not count as military service.

The Coast Guard and the Auxiliary ARE allowed to tow in emergency situations. In non-emergency situations (such as running out of fuel on a clear, calm day), the Coast Guard and the Auxilary MUST defer to commercial towing companies. This was legislated by congress. In the event of an emergency, the Coast Guard and/or the Auxiliary will tow you to the nearest safe harbor, not necessarily back to your home port. There are some other non-emergency situations where we are allowed to tow, but I think you get the idea. For the most part non-emergency towing must be performed by a commercial towing company. This has nothing to do with liability. In an emergency the Coast Guard and/or Auxiliary will tow you and all parties are "insured" by the US Government. Be forewarned (as with anything else government related) in the event you are towed by the Coast Guard or Auxiliary, there will be paperwork to complete.

In order to be an Auxiliarist, you will need to be dedicated. It is an expensive and time consuming "hobby", but many find it to be a very rewarding experience. In order to participate this summer, I have had to attend mandatory workshops on Operations, an Instructor Conference, a workshop on "Team Coordination", an Annual Currency Maintenance workshop where we practiced proper towing procedures, and an 8-hour mandatory "Team Coordination" training class. We constantly have it pounded into us that we are not policeman. We do not issue citations. We do not have boarding authority. We are only there to assist the boating public and the Coast Guard. If we see a violation, we may politely point it out to the boat-owner; we may not issue any type of citation. The most common thing that I see is people "bow-riding" on a boat that is not designed for it, with their legs hanging over the bow, often while traveling at high speeds. I will inform them that this is a violation and that if they are stopped by the state marine police they could be fined $500. If they are stopped by the Coast Guard, it is considered "negligent operation" and the fine is $5000. That is the extent of my authority, once they are informed, my job is done. Most people appreciate it because they did not know that they were doing anything wrong.

Auxiliarists are not exempt from any speed or wake laws. If you see them breaking the law, they should be reported just like any other boater. They are not allowed to show any blue law-enforcement lights. They may show a flashing red and amber safety light in very specific circumstances when authorized by the Coast Guard. This will usually be while maintaining a safety zone around a marine event such as a race.

Most Auxiliarists are older as they have the time and resources to devote, however membership is open to anyone 17 years and older. I have been a member since I was in my twenties.

Check out a flotilla near you, you may find it to be a rewarding way to use your boat and skills and to give something to the community.

The above are the personal opinions of a long-time member of the Auxiliary and should not be interpreted as an official policy statement.
 

Boatist

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Haskindm
I personaly would like to thank you for your service. I have taken the Coast Guard Aux Boating skills and Seamanship class 3 times over the years and My whole family has Passed the class one time. The classes are a great cheap service and I think everyone should take it at least one time.

Everytime I have had any contact with the Coast Guard Aux or Active Duty they have been very helpfull. Boat inspections done by the Aux were either while getting ready to launch or after retreived. They inspected the boat Quickly with only about 5 minutes of my time to help fine the stuff below seats and registration. When done give you the sticker and point out any thing that I could do better. Welcome on my boat anytime.

The two Coast Guard Aux members that were saying if I tow to use the other boat roaps and equipment were maning a AUX Booth at the San Francisco boat show. They were saying that in the area had been a rash of scam Trash who had been faking injury and sueing boaters. They went on to say they are no longer allow to tow with out direction form the Active Duty Coast Guard and it is very rare that they can tow.

We have towed in at least 20 boats over the years and never had any problems, but with what they were saying a few years back do not know if I would today.

We towed in one boat with a lady in a life jacket on the bow getting ready to jump while black smoke was pooring out the back of the boat and her mate opening all the covers to find where the smoke was coming from. They were three times our size but when he found no fire and the smoke cleared we tow them all the way to their birth.

We towed another from the ocean with two drunks in a 16 foot runabout with no bow rails that in the morning when we launched they were trying to start their motor. Comeing in we see them in the edge of the surf washing up on a small rocky island that is allways covered with Sea Lyons. One of the guys is sitting on the bow drinking a beer. We come as far into the surf as I will go with only about 15 feet of water and throw them a line. Guy wants to sit on the bow and just hang on to the roap. I tell him to tie it to the cleat clime back into the boat and both put on life jackets and they did.

Also lots of motor will not start, lost prop, bent prop, out of fuel.

I have always use my towing bridle and lines because I know they are good and set up for my boat.

Now when they say more likely to be sued I do not know if I will tow in non emergency conditions. A sad day for us as we like helping people in trouble. Most of the people who need help have never taken a class don't have radios, do not have good lines don't wear life jackets, don't know their position, don't even have a anchor.
 

haskindm

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In response to some of the negative comments regarding the Coast Guard Auxiliary, I wanted to post some of the accomplishments of the Auxiliary over the past year. While there will be some members of any organization that fail to live up to the ideals of the group, the Auxiliary provides vital services to the Coast Guard and the boating public. These numbers come from an address from Admiral Thad Allen to the Auxiliary to commemorate the 69th anniversary of the founding of the Auxiliary. The full text of the Admirals address follows the basic figures.

In the past year:
The 29,000 members of the Auxiliary have provided over 3 million hours of direct support to the Coast Guard freeing active duty members for other duties. That is an average of 100 hours per member.

The Auxiliary is directly credited with saving 180 lives.

5500 Mariners were assisted by the Auxiliary by receiving a tow or some other similar service.

The Auxiliary provide 55,000 hours of boating instruction to the public.

The Auxiliary performed 130,000 vessel safety checks.

SUBJ: SIXTY-NINTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD
AUXILIARY
1. JUNE 23, 2008, IS A SIGNIFICANT DATE FOR TEAM COAST GUARD. IT
WILL MARK OUR AUXILIARYS SIXTY-NINTH YEAR OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO
THE NATION.
2. WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN CALLING THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE
AUXILIARY OUR SHIPMATES. THEY HAVE STOOD THE WATCH AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF TEAM COAST GUARD CONTINUALLY SINCE 1939. I CONSIDER EVERY ONE OF OUR AUXILIARY MEMBERS AN INVALUABLE ASSET OF TEAM COAST GUARD. WE SIMPLY COULD NOT MEET THE CHALLENGES WE FACE OR EXECUTE OUR MISSIONS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITHOUT THEIR SELFLESS DEVOTION TO DUTY. OUR COAST GUARD AUXILIARY IS TRULY THE FINEST ALL-VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.
3. OVER THE PAST YEAR THE AUXILIARY HAS CONTINUALLY EVOLVED.
ANTICIPATING HOW TO BEST INTEGRATE AND SERVE THE COAST GUARD UNDER THE SECTOR CONSTRUCT, THE AUXILIARY HAS PROACTIVELY RESEARCHED, STUDIED, AND IMPLEMENTED THE AUXILIARY SECTOR COORDINATOR (ASC). THE ASC BRINGS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF AUXILIARY CAPABILITIES TO THE SECTOR TO ASSIST IN MEETING LONG TERM AND EMERGENT NEEDS TO ASSIST IN ENSURING OPTIMAL MISSION EXECUTION AND SUPPORT. THE AUXILIARY CONTINUES TO ALIGN ITSELF WITH THE COAST GUARD AND IS CURRENTLY MOVING TO MODERNIZE ITS ORGANIZATION IN ALL DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE OPTIMAL SUPPORT TODAY AND INTO THE FUTURE. I SINCERELY APPRECIATE ALL AUXILIARISTS FLEXIBILITY AND COOPERATION AS WE CONTINUE TO MODERNIZE OUR ORGANIZATIONS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS WHO
USE OUR WATERWAYS FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND FOR RECREATION.
4. THE MODERNIZATION OF OUR ORGANIZATION IS A CHALLENGING ENDEAVOR, AND WE CONTINUE TO COUNT ON OUR AUXILIARISTS FOR UNWAVERING SUPPORT. OVER THE PAST YEAR AUXILIARISTS PROVIDED OVER THREE MILLION HOURS OF DIRECT SUPPORT. THAT TRANSLATES INTO AN AVERAGE OF OVER 100 VOLUNTEER HOURS BY EACH OF THE TWENTY NINE THOUSAND AUXILIARISTS. THOSE HOURS HELP FREE UP ACTIVE DUTY COAST GUARDSMEN AND WOMEN TO BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THEIR AREAS OF EXPERTISE, OR PROVIDE FOR SOME WELL DESERVED TIME OFF. AUXILIARISTS ACTIONS RESULTED IN OVER 180 LIVES SAVED AND THE ASSISTING OF NEARLY 5,500 MARINERS. AUXILIARISTS PROVIDED THE BOATING PUBLIC OVER FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND HOURS OF BOATING SAFETY EDUCATION COURSES AND CONDUCTED OVER ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND VESSEL SAFETY CHECKS. THESE EDUCATION COURSES AND VESSEL CHECKS DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE PREVENTION OF COUNTLESS SAR CASES AND LIVES SAVED EACH YEAR. WHETHER IN THE AIR CONDUCTING OVERFLIGHTS OF FLOODS IN AMERICAS HEARTLAND, CONDUCTING SAFETY PATROLS, OR COVERING THE RADIOS ON A
HOLIDAY WEEKEND, OUR VOLUNTEERS CONTINUE TO STAND THE WATCH WITH UNCOMPROMISED DILIGENCE.
5. THE OVERALL CONTRIBUTION THAT AUXILIARISTS HAVE GIVEN YEAR AFTER YEAR IS IMPRESSIVE, BUT THE GREATEST MEASURE OF THEIR IMPACT IS FOUND IN THEIR SPIRIT OF PATRIOTISM AND THEIR STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO THE GUARDIAN ETHOS AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE COAST GUARD WITH WHOM THEY SERVE.
6. THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY IS AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE ASSET TO THIS SERVICE, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, AND OUR NATION. ON JUNE 23, 2008, I ENCOURAGE ALL COAST GUARD UNITS TO RECOGNIZE THE EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION AND DEVOTION TO DUTY THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY DISPLAYED BY OUR COAST GUARD AUXILIARY VOLUNTEERS AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE.
7. ADMIRAL THAD ALLEN, COMMANDANT, SENDS.
8. INTERNET RELEASE IS AUTHORIZED.
 

INJUN

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I have no negatives about the USCGAUX. A great organization to join where you can share your knowledge and educating the boating public. They give courses that are free to members and can lead almost up to the equivalent of captain, making it an easy step to get a captains liscense.

I once was one.
 

CATransplant

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I suppose it's possible that some CGA folks are officious or stupid, but I've never many any such. It's also possible that some boaters have a problem with authority figures of all kinds, so, by extension, they include the CGA folks, who might just point out some unsafe operation or equipment.

Too bad. All the CGA people I've encountered have been nice folks.
 

marine4003

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Well for all the above area's that have great CGA,I wish you'd send some down here,I know these local guys mean well,but its just like any other volunteer organization down here in Myrtle Beach.....disgruntled retirees who want everything done "like it was at home" whatever state that may be.
Next weekend i'll try to take pic's of the local CGA,there's like 6 men jammed into a 19' bayliner...all wanting to be captain...dressed up like Admiral Nimitz,with there "freakin bullhorn" creating nothing but confusion.Actually its funny..in a sad sort of way.
 
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