Ultrasonic Cleaner

RoeWalker

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Hi Gang- I'm brand new to this forum and hoping somebody can help me. I have an ultrasonic cleaner that is made for medical use. Its called a Mettler Cavitator and the model number is ME5.5. It runs at 200 watts and 67khz. My question is- Are these specs applicable for cleaning my the carburetor on my 1978 10824M Evinrude 9.9? Also, can someone tell me specifically what kind of solution to use? I'd like to clean the carb today, but I can't find anyone locally that sells soilution for these machines. I've seen suggestions online, but haven't seen how to mix (how many parts water to cleaning solution)
Thanks for your help!
 

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Re: Ultrasonic Cleaner

Hi Gang- I'm brand new to this forum and hoping somebody can help me. I have an ultrasonic cleaner that is made for medical use. Its called a Mettler Cavitator and the model number is ME5.5. It runs at 200 watts and 67khz. My question is- Are these specs applicable for cleaning my the carburetor on my 1978 10824M Evinrude 9.9? Also, can someone tell me specifically what kind of solution to use? I'd like to clean the carb today, but I can't find anyone locally that sells soilution for these machines. I've seen suggestions online, but haven't seen how to mix (how many parts water to cleaning solution)
Thanks for your help!

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Generally a engine parts cleaner runs between 28 and 40Hz but I don't see an issue with the higher frequency model. Only issue is it will probably take a bit longer due to about half the power level. Mixing of the solution is based on the type you use. Ttrichloroethane and Freon are great things but no longer used due to the environment. Water based solvents have worked well using ultrasonic cleaners. Below is one which comes to mind and the mixing is 1.19 to 1.3

Amazon.com - Brulin 815 GD Ultrasonic Cleaning Solution, 1 Gallon - Cleaning Supplies
 

Will Bark

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Re: Ultrasonic Cleaner

Don't know about the ultrasonic method; but my redneck method is to mix 50/50 acetone and paint thinner in a coffee can with a little agitation and about 2 hours of soaking which so far has done a good job when followed by compressed air. Good luck
 

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Well...I wanted to use the ultrasonic cleaner right away and couldn't find any premixed solution locally so I used simple green. I guess it kind of worked. There was a lot of debris floating around after a couple cycles, but there was still visible residue on the outside so I'm doubtful it fully cleaned the inside. Now that my "experiment" is over, I'll go ahead and clean it the old fashioned way- with NAPA carb dip- which brings up another challenge. The carb has a plastic fuel line fitting and the can is pretty clear that I shouldnt put anything other than metal in the cleaner. Anybody have any advice on using carb dip on plastic fittings? If I remove it, it looks like I'll have to break it off and replace it. Thanks for your help!
 

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Well...I wanted to use the ultrasonic cleaner right away and couldn't find any premixed solution locally so I used simple green. I guess it kind of worked. There was a lot of debris floating around after a couple cycles, but there was still visible residue on the outside so I'm doubtful it fully cleaned the inside. Now that my "experiment" is over, I'll go ahead and clean it the old fashioned way- with NAPA carb dip- which brings up another challenge. The carb has a plastic fuel line fitting and the can is pretty clear that I shouldnt put anything other than metal in the cleaner. Anybody have any advice on using carb dip on plastic fittings? If I remove it, it looks like I'll have to break it off and replace it. Thanks for your help!

I've used carb cleaner on plastic parts but also didn't let them sit for a while. Cannot really say with any certainty that a prolong period would not cause any damage.
 

RoeWalker

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I've used carb cleaner on plastic parts but also didn't let them sit for a while. Cannot really say with any certainty that a prolong period would not cause any damage.

Yeah, I've used spray carb cleaner on plastic before, but I've never used the carb dip...Apparently its different stuff that can break down any plastic fittings.
 

Stupidspencer

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I have several ultrasonic cleaners that I use for cleaning everything under the sun. But they are most valuable to me for cleaning.... you guessed it, carburetors. I mostly do dirtbike, quad, and other small-engine carbs and my 40kHz ultrasonic does an excellent job. The other two I own are 67kHz which works also, but not quite as quickly. The general rule for selecting a suitable frequency is lower kHz for large dirt particle size (like on a carburetor), higher kHz for fine particles and precision parts cleaning (like medical instruments or jewelry). Anything from 20-80kHz will work for cleaning carbs and other automotive or marine parts. I disassemble carbs (remove bowl, jets, needle/seat, all cover-plates, etc) and put all the parts in. That way the dirt has a way to escape from all the little orifices. Rinse parts with clean water after removing from ultrasonic solution, then dry with compressed air (if available).
As for the cleaning solution, I use Simple Green and water mixed at about 1:10 respectively. Although typically special detergent (not soap) is used, Simple Green is easy to get and works quite well. HOWEVER, it WILL discolor aluminum parts if left in for too long. Typically 30 minutes or longer and you start to see the aluminum developing a black-ish finish. If the solution is hot, the discoloration occurs quicker. Also, when hot, Simple Green will cause most paints to bubble and peel off. This is from the hot Simple Green, not the ultrasonic action.
If you try other cleaners, you will find that ones that contain soaps, like dish soap, pretty much kill the ultrasonic action. The louder the sound from the ultrasonic is, the better it is cleaning. So if you put some cleaning solution in and notice a major decrease in sound, use something else. I've also found that when the cleaning solution gets too dirty, the ultrasonic action is not as effective. I think this is because the high concentration of particles in the solution absorb some of the energy of the soundwaves, but thats just a theory.
Another thing to note is the effectiveness of ultrasound to clean various materials. The harder the material, the better it can be cleaned. Forget about trying to clean rubber or soft plastics with ultrasound. It doesn't work.

I hope this helps!
 

James R

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10% Simple Green works. Been using it for years in my ultrasonic. Change it when it gets badly discolored.
First strip the carb, removing the jets, then soak your carb and jets in Gunk Carb and Parts cleaner. This will not hurt the plastic bits. Follow the instructions on the can
Carefully probe any tiny bores with a needle or similar. Rinse under the tap and blow dry carefully with compressed air.
Pop it in the ultrasonic for 30 mins, remove and rinse and blow out with compressed air. If you have done it carefully you will have real clean carbs. You can save the Gunk cleaner for the next time and the next anon.
 
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