Two for two! But at a price...

eavega

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I want to thank this board again for the rich trove of information provided for those of us trying to revive old outboards. I have successfully brought my second Johnson outboard to life.

My first was a 1960 10 HP seahorse. For that one I had to replace the impeller, clean and rebuild the carb, replace the spark plugs, gap the points correctly, change out the LU oil, and replace the fuel pump diaphragm. Total cost for a running motor including the motor itself was $250.

When I put it on the back of my boat, I found it was underpowered, so on the suggestion of some folks from this forum I went seeking something bigger, and eventually traded for a supposedly running rough, supposedly 1970 20 HP Johnson. In reality I doubt that motor ever ran for the guy who traded me, and in reality it was a 1968 and not a 1970 motor.

I finally got this one running today, but for this one I had to replace the coils, points, condensers, fuel pump, and the entire carburetor (the one on the motor had a damaged jet, missing air silencer, needed the needle valve and seat replaced, as well as the low-speed needle. All the parts together including the rebuild kit was $70. I found a shop that specializes in older outboards that had a new carb for this motor including the air silencer for $100, which included doing a rebuild on it since this carb had been sitting on a shelf somewhere for over 30 years), and other random and sundry parts. I also had to flush out the lower unit where the previous owner either through ignorance or indifference had filled it with automotive grease instead of LU oil. Total cost in parts was $250.

the upside is that it runs perfectly, and I am sure that with the components I replaced that the engine is reliable. Even though the total cost of the motor was $500 considering what I had put into both motors, I get comfort from looking at the price of a new 20 HP motor.

Again, my thanks to all you of you who directly answered my questions, and all of those that asked the questions before me so I didn't have to ask.

-Eric
 

samo_ott

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Re: Two for two! But at a price...

It's always great getting the engines fixed up and running and you're right it does not sound like the 20 had been running in awhile. Once you fix up even more old outboards (if you do so) you will start seeing all the bad things before you get em and can almost always bargain the price down :)
 

jbjennings

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Re: Two for two! But at a price...

I like buying/fixing my own motors so I know they're reliable and when they do break, I can fix them without waiting on a mechanic/paying one. You know how high that is these days and how long you have to wait sometimes.....
Glad to hear you've got a good 20. Those are nice motors.:)
JBJ
 
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Sea18Horse

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Re: Two for two! But at a price...

I'm always glad to hear about another one that's been brought back to life! I see so many being parted out on ebay. Lessee the power head is good, the l.u. is good, the center section good, the steering bracket, the stern bracket, starter, carburetor all good! Why is it being parted out? I understand the monetary realities of it and it's nice to be able to find parts sometimes, but it just seems sad to me.

And I'm glad to see more discussions on here about the old ones. Too much talk about looper this, Ficht that blah blah blah! Booooring! :)

The old ones can be every bit as reliable and dependable as a new one. The difference is that with the old ones the owner is 100% responsible for that reliability. That means inspecting and/or replacing any questionable parts from the tip of the starter rope to the tip of the prop nut. Personally I prefer it that way.

Cheers...................Todd
 
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