Trouble in Kiwi-land

Kenneth Brown

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PROBLEMS MOUNT: Commissioner Rob Robinson announces 330 staff are under investigation. About 30 images found on computers were 'explicit images of sex acts of a nature and quality I view very seriously', he said. <br />MAARTEN HOLL/Dominion Post <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br />330 police in porn probe <br />22 April 2005 <br />By CHALPAT SONTI and TRACY WATKINS<br /><br />An embattled New Zealand police force has taken another hit with 330 staff under investigation for viewing sexually explicit images on their computers. <br /><br /><br />Police will not say who they are, but the superintendent is likely to be one of the country's 12 district commanders. <br /><br />Canterbury has the most – 61 – followed by Wellington with 44. <br /><br />Some face criminal proceedings or dismissal. None has been stood down pending the investigations. Those in the firing line were told yesterday. <br /><br />The porn probe is the latest in a series of hits for police; investigations are being carried out into their conduct, and the 111 emergency system. <br /><br />Central district commander Superintendent Mark Lammas – who has 27 constables and two sergeants under investigation – said the latest matter was the worst. <br /><br />"Sometimes we shoot ourselves in the foot with a slug gun . . . With this one we've got out a double-barrelled shotgun and shot ourselves in both feet." <br /><br />The revelations came as the Government moved yesterday to reopen the near-defunct commission of inquiry into police culture, in an attempt to deflect a mounting crisis of confidence in the force. <br /><br />The inquiry had been set up to hear sexual-assault allegations against police but was close to disbanding because of problems hearing evidence after criminal charges were laid. <br /><br />Yesterday's announcement follows a five-month investigation after an internal audit of police email systems in November found more than 5000 contained sexually explicit material. These were estimated to clog up 20 per cent of police computer capacity. <br /><br />Police are now bracing for a backlash against frontline staff in light of the email inquiry, and the police union called the actions of those caught "stupidity". <br /><br />Police Commissioner Rob Robinson would not go into detail about the images found on computers, but said they were "not mere nudity". About 30 were "sexually explicit images of sex acts of a nature and quality I view very seriously". <br /><br />None of the images were of children but some were violent. <br /><br />Included in those under investigation are about 40 women and 24 civilian staff. None are part of the police executive. <br /><br />Mr Robinson said a "significant number" of images had been sent from outside the police. However, it was all on police computers. <br /><br />The district-level investigations are expected to be completed by May 27. <br /><br />Eastern district commander Superintendent Grant Nicholls said the news that eight of his staff, including a detective, were under investigation was doubly disappointing given six staff were disciplined for similar offences last year. While most investigations were being carried out by staff in the same district, he may bring in a senior officer from outside. <br /><br />Staff were doing their best to get on with the job after hearing the news. <br /><br />Wellington district commander Superintendent Rob Pope said it was "a big hit on our reputation". <br /><br />The highest rank under investigation in the district – which covers Kapiti, Porirua, Wairarapa, the Hutt Valley and Wellington city – was a senior sergeant. <br /><br />Police Association president Greg O'Connor said the investigation was a wake-up call for police. Despite earlier warnings and an audit in 2003, the actions of those caught amounted to stupidity. The investigation showed New Zealand had one of the most open police forces in the world and staff needed to realise their actions would be under constant scrutiny. <br /><br />The association had received several calls yesterday from members under investigation and would ensure they were fairly treated. "But we're not here to keep people in the police who shouldn't be here." <br /><br />Police Minister George Hawkins refused to comment directly on the allegations but said offensive behaviour by any officer would not be tolerated. <br /><br />"Police are only too well aware that they represent the law but are not a law unto themselves." <br /><br />National's police spokesman, Tony Ryall, said the ordinary officer on the beat was a "good person" working under difficult circumstances to do the best job he or she could. <br /><br />But the public had lost confidence because of the Government's insistence that they give traffic enforcement a higher priority than other duties.
 

62_Kiwi

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Re: Trouble in Kiwi-land

The media love seeing the police in trouble...they'll play it for all it's worth and then some :rolleyes: <br /><br />Generally our police force is pretty good in NZ. There's very little corruption and they are mostly good people. Their biggest problem is the NZ government (a complete bunch of P.C. lefty whackos). Obviously, I have a lot more respect for the NZ Police than I do for the NZ Government.
 

roscoe

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Re: Trouble in Kiwi-land

"About 30 images found on computers were 'explicit images of sex acts of a nature and quality I view very seriously', he said. "<br /><br />What is he doing viewing them at all ?? :)
 

Grant S

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Not crime of the century in my view, but if it was specifically outlawed in their employment contracts then the silly buggers deserve whatever treatment they get.<br /><br />Kiwi Phil, you may be right about how PC this government is, but they have presided over one of the longest economic booms we have had for many years.
 

Ross J

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Our Police are well supported by the Kiwi public and although they don't condone this behaviour they will stay behind the Police Force in general.<br />This Kiwi would say that this type of stuff on a computer doesn't stop the Police doing their job! It doesn't mean we are without their presence. The higher authorities will troop out a few selected folk for public embarrassment but you can bet your life it wouldn't include the top Police Officers in the land who will be very well coccooned in their outrage!<br />Truth be told I reckon their has been porn bought up on almost every computer that has been made, at some time or another. I have come accross it accidently doing searches for other stuff. I know that isn't the same as having it stored but it is interesting how easy it is to obtain.<br />Ross
 

Tinkerer

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This is going to get me nuked by the Kiwis, but I just can't resist it.<br /><br />Down here in Australia we have long believed that Kiwis have an unhealthy relationship with the millions of sheep that populate their shaky isles. We have theories about Kiwis with the back legs of sheep in their gumboots and sheep pressing back on the top of cliffs.<br /><br />So we come to what might be the porn in NZ that is turning on their police. It's hard to pass a threesome like this, where the horny sheep still has a happy smile and the blokes clearly reckon it was a 10/10.<br /><br />I just wish I could have manipulated a smoking cigarette into the sheep's mouth.<br /><br /><br />
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cbnoodles

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Whoa, Tinkerer! You really are out to get on the Kiwis' hit list, aren't you?<br /><br />On a more serious note: If this is considered high level stuff, you people in NZ really have got it good. This is page 3 in the metro section of a typical US newspaper. And I mean that in a good way. I wish we could say this is as bad as it gets here.
 

62_Kiwi

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Hmmm - you don't see many sheep looking like that in NZ....and come to think of it - it's coming from a .com.au web address!! :rolleyes: <br /><br />Still - I have to admit, that's quite funny Tinkerer :D
 

Winger Ed.

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Originally posted by Tinkerer:<br /> Down here in Australia we have long believed that Kiwis have an unhealthy relationship with the millions of sheep
I have also wondered about some of the people who inhabit the more rural areas of my own country.<br /><br />Here in the US, you can always spot the sheep farmers. They all seem to wear tall, rubber boots with unnecessarily large leg openings. <br /><br />I hear such boots hold the sheep in a very 'desirable' position when you stick their back legs down in them and walk the sheep up to the edge of a cliff.
 

Tinkerer

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Originally posted by Winger Ed.:<br /> I have also wondered about some of the people who inhabit the more rural areas of my own country.<br /><br />Here in the US, you can always spot the sheep farmers. They all seem to wear tall, rubber boots with unnecessarily large leg openings. <br /><br />I hear such boots hold the sheep in a very 'desirable' position when you stick their back legs down in them and walk the sheep up to the edge of a cliff.
And we thought it was just the Kiwis who were smart enought to work that out.<br /><br />Maybe I'm missing something when I look at sheep. <br /><br />I saw millions of them when I worked in the shearing industry for a few years. Never saw one that turned me on. Maybe there's something wrong with me?
 
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