TRIM/TILT PROBLEMS

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

Ok... my little boy toy has a tohatsu engine. His trim/tilt isn't working. The engine won't go up. He's worked on it for the past five days and still it won't work. The trim/tilt works, the engine goes down, but not up. And when he hooks it back up to the motor is just makes a clicking sound (coming from engine). His engine is a 89 if that matters. If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. He's comming to conclusion of finding a new trim/tilt motor... So if anyone can't help, thanks anyway. Oh an if can anyone tell me how much a trim/tilt motor usually costs for a tohatsu? Thanks again.

 

[45_red]

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First make sure you have a good battery& all terminals and wires are clean& sound.You can try switching solenoids and jumper-ing around the solenoids. More likely one of the brushes in the motor is hanging up. Take the motor to a shop that works on electric motors. I believe a new motor is about $300.00

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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Well, when he put the wires from the trim/tilt motor directly on the battery it worked. But then when he put the battery in the boat and put the wires on the engine it didn't work. Ok...I'm new at the boat stuff..what's a solenoid? If it is one of the brushes are hanging up what should I do about it? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.

 

[45_red]

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Solenoid is a type of switch and relay. From your latest, that appears to be where your problem is. Normally one solenoid for up& one for down.Trace the wires between the battery and the motor.What HP?

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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70 HP I believe. Tracing the wires should help? Thanks again for your help.

 

[45_red]

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By tracing the wires you can find the solenoids. They are under a cover on the starboard side of the powerhead.

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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Hmm, ok. Well, he took it to this one guy and the guy said the trim/tilt motor can't be fixed. Thanks for the help though. I told him what you said and I think he's going to try it. Thanks.

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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Hey... he got another motor that works really well. The motor now goes up and down, but the only problem is it will go up and down MANNUALLY. He tried everything for the switches to work, but they won't. It makes that clicking noise like I talked about before. Two click when I press the button up and one click when I press it down. Can anyone help please?

 

[45_red]

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Sounds like a bad connection or wire, The wires can get corrosion up under the insulation.Not likely that both solenoids are bad but possible I guess.

 

[Keith E.]

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I had a similar problem on my Nissan. Water had gotten into the electric motor housing and rust formed betweent he armture and field windings. This will short out the motor and all you will hear is the solenoid/relays clicking The motor is not real hard to take appart but can be a "Bugger" to put back together, because of the way the brushes are installed. Once appart take very fine sand paper or Crocus cloth and clean all the surfaces of any "surface rust". Once clean get some Electric Contact cleaner and spray everything down real well to remove any of the particles lossened by the sanding. Then blow it out with air. While you are at it stretch the springs on the brushes "a little" ...not to much or you will have trouble getting them to stay in their holders. Replace the "O"ring seals if you can, or use the old ones and Forma Gasket to help re-seal the housing. Worked for me hope it helps.

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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45_red... yeah, he didn't think it was possible for both of them to be bad either. So.. should we try to find the wires and clean them? Replace them? Can we do anything at all? <br /><br />Keith... you don't think it has anything to do with the switches at all? The trim tilt motor seems to be working fine. He uses wires to make the engine go up manually.... with the battery and all that stuff. (SOrry, I'm not very good at explaining things). He just can't seem to have the switches work the trim tilt motor so the engine will go up and down. <br /> Thanks for the help guys. I appreciate it. If you can offer anymore advice I'd appreciate that too. Thanks again. Have a good day.

 

[45_red]

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If I read you right,he can get the thing to work by by-passing both the switches and the solenoids? or by bypassing the solenoids only? or are you referring to the solenoids when you say"switches."<br />You say the solenoids are clicking so they probably are OK but can't relay an adequate flow of juice because of bad connections or wires. But it's possible to screw up some solenoids by wrenching on the terminal nuts without a backup.<br />Just for kicks have him rig a a ground wire from the trim motor to the power head or to the negative post on the battery& see if that makes a difference.

 

[vidar]

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hi! the wires frm trim/tilt motor goes to some box/thing w several wires one for up other for down...these are making the click sound..these are the relays seems like they are gone if you can find power n one side ooooooof relay and not on otherside when activating the switch...

 

[Keith E.]

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IF when you push in on the Tilt/Trim switch at the control handle, with the cowling off have a buddy put his hand on the two (switchs/solenoids/relays) ha.. at the motor. IF you can FEEL the (switchs/solenoids/relays) "Click" as you press the switch in both directions (upand down)at the control handle. Then it is either the wiring from the (switch/solenoids/relays)to the tilt/trim motor or the motor itself. If you cannot feel them click then the problem is either power or a broken wire/wires between the control lever and the (switch/solenoids/relays)or both.....Just for fun ...they are actually RELAYS.....Good luck

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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Thanks guys... soleniod = switches. I'll tell him what you guys said. But now my little honey of mine screwed up BIG TIME (that dummy!) He backed his truck into the hitch and pushed the boat back. The engine hit a branch... the engine cover was already messed up...well, anyway... the engine started smoking. Some of the wire hit up against other wires causing it to spark and then a small fire. The wires for the trim/tilt motor are melted and now it doesn't go up and down again. And also...the engine won't start. We were going fishing saturday with another guy, his boat...and some family... When we got the boat out in the water it started then it died. He flooded the engine. We had to have our friend help us put it back on the trailer. The engine won't start at all even after waiting an hour or so to clear the flood. Anyone have any suggestions? If it's not one thing it's always another with him. Thanks for the help again. I appreciate it. Do think it's fixable? Thanks again...

 

[45_red]

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Maybe he lucked out & just blew the fuse. Under the cover over the RELAYS

 

[thingsthatgobumpinthenigh]

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Well, it seems that way. The engine is working alright. He stills wants to replace the wires that caught on fire. Thanks for all the help though. At least it's working; hopefully for a while too. Thanks again! Ta ta.