Trim Sender / Limit Wires

cecho

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I've learned many times over the years never to make "common sense" assumptions on 30+ year old equipment/electronics.

I'm currently installing a new trim sender and limit switch. When trying to trace the wires all four of them literally fell apart in my hands as I touched them. I can't believe how badly weathered they were.

The manual explains One trim switch (port) wire goes to ground and one goes to either an unmarked or brown/white wire and that the trim sender (starboard) goes to a purple and blue wire near the trim pump.

At the trim pump I have:
1 x single purple wire w/bullet connector
1 x single white/pink wire w/reversed bullet connector
1 x double baby blue set of wires w/bullet connector

At the engine I have:
1 x black wire to ground w/ring terminal

Can someone confirm these assumptions since the manual doesn't?
Assumption 1: The white/pink wire takes the place of the brown/white wire.
Assumption 2: The trim sender is a simple potentiometer or rheostat and that it doesn't matter which wire goes to blue and which wire goes to purple.
Assumption 3: The trim switch is a simple contact switch and it doesn't matter which wire goes to white/pink and which one goes to ground.


Also, do there exist good wiring diagrams for mercruisers? Wiring diagrams make working on electronics 10 times more fun. :)
 

Don S

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

Does your trim pump have one or two solenoids?
You wire colors are faded, so they make little sense at this point.

Brown and white wire for the gauge is NOT attached to the trim system at all. one side goes to ground, the other goes to the gauge.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

I'm sorry, I didn't say that very clearly. 3/4 of the wires connect to a plate right next to the trim pump. It looks like the pump only has one solenoid. Here's an image of the pump and a close up of 3 of the 4 wires:
IMG_20130318_151821.jpgIMG_20130318_151839.jpg
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

Is there 1 or 2 solenoids on the pump.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

It looks like the pump only has one solenoid. Would there be a second hidden somewhere? I can only see one. Here's an image of the pump and what I can see.
IMG_20130318_151839.jpg

The white/pink wire goes to the helm. It connects to the trim gauge.
The purple wire goes to the helm. It connects to the trim up switch along with a red wire coming from the trailer up switch.
One blue wire goes to the pump. I do not know where the second one goes.

Based on where the wires go I'm guessing White/pink is for the sender and purple and blue are for the limit switch, but the manual doesn't really explain the way the system works so I'm making assumptions.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

If there is a second solenoid, it may be right next to the one you can see in the picture, but it may be out of sight. Can't tell in that picture.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

There's only one solenoid attached to the pump and it's in the image. If there is a second solenoid it's not attached to the pump. What does the solenoid do? Does it act like a valve or does it act like a relay? Looking at the image I'm guessing it's like a relay. I'll check the wiring and the back of the engine to make sure it's not on there if there is a second solenoid.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

Thanks! That looks like the info I needed. I wish my manual had that image!

Now, does it matter which wire on the trim sender I use? They are both the same color and connector.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

What manual do you have?

C-90-71707 Volume 1 and Volume II

Both are old and ragged and probably missing a few pages.

A PDF version of these would be a godsend. The online versions of I and II in the Adult section is very ungainly. The PDF links I've found are invalid.
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

Thanks! I think that'll probably make a difference. These are the manuals that came with the boat and they talk about the 898, but I never even thought about the year.

I notice the manual I just downloaded has a great Power Trim diagram as well. :D
 

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Re: Trim Sender / Limit Wires

I notice the manual I just downloaded has a great Power Trim diagram as well. :D

That's where I got the other drawing from, I just cleaned and straightened them up.
 
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