Re: Trigger coil testing question
You testing the coils or triggers?? Stator?
What's it doing? What we working on?? Guessing it's a 120??
The test for the stator or any OHMs need to be done with the key off and the wires unhooked.
Trigger testing and stator testing is at Outboard ignition . com .
Four Cylinder Engines
(1991-1995)
Engines Using a Single Switch Box and Four Ignition Coils
No Fire At All:
1.Disconnect the black/yellow kill wires AT THE PACK and retest. If the engine’s ignition fires now, the kill circuit has a fault-possibly the keyswitch, harness or shift switch.
2.Disconnect the yellow wires from the stator to the rectifier and retest. If the engine fires, replace the rectifier.
3.Check the cranking RPM. A cranking speed less than 250-RPM will not allow the system to fire properly.
4.Check the stator resistance and DVA output as given below:
Motors with Flex-plate Flywheel
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
Blue
Red
Blue/White
Red/White 5000-7000
125-155 180V or more
25V or more
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Motors with Cast, Vented Flywheel
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
Blue
Red
Blue/White
Red/White 3250-3650
75-90 180V or more
25V or more
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Motors with Red Stator
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
White/Green Green/White 500-700 180V or more
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Red Stator Adapter
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
Blue
Blue(Each) Blue
Engine Ground Open
Open 180V or more
180V or more
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No fire or Intermittent on One or More Cylinders:
1.If the cylinders are only acting up above an idle, connect an inductive Tachometer to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem cylinders.
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2.Check the trigger resistance and DVA output as given below:
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
Purple wire (#1)
Brown wire (#3)
Purple wire (#1)
White wire (#2)
Brown wire (#3)
White/Black wire (#4) White wire (#2)
Black/White wire (#4)
Engine GND
Engine GND
Engine GND
Engine GND 800-1400
800-1400
Open
Open
Open
Open 4V or more
4V or more
1V or more (a)
1V or more (a)
1V or more (a)
1V or more (a)
a.This reading can be used to determine if a pack has a problem in the triggering circuit. For instance, if you have no fire on one cylinder and the DVA trigger reading for that cyli?lder is low — disconnect the trigger wire and recheck the DVA output to ground from the trigger wire. If the reading stays low — the trigger is bad.
•Note: If #1 and #2 or #3 and #4 are acting up, check the trigger as described above. The trigger has two coils firing four cylinders. #1 & 2 share a trigger coil and #3 & 4 share a trigger coil. Also, the switch box is divided into two parts. The #1 and #2 cylinders are fired on one side and #3 and #4 are fired from the other side of the switch box. If the trigger tests good by the chart below, but you have two cylinders not firing (either #1 and #2 or #3 and #4), the switch box or stator is bad.
3.If you have two cylinders not firing (either #1 or #2 or #3 and #4), swap the stator leads end to end on the switch box (Red with red/white and blue with blue/white). If the problem moved to the other cylinders, the stator is bad. It the problem stayed on the same cylinders, the switch box is likely bad.
4.Check the DVA output on the green wires from the switch box while connected to the ignition coils. Check the reading on the switch box terminal AND on the ignition coil terminal. You should have a reading of at least 150V or more at both places. If the reading is low on one cylinder, disconnect the green wire from the ignition coil for that cylinder and reconnect it to a load resistor. Retest. If the reading is now good, the ignition coil is likely bad. A continued low reading indicates a bad power pack.
Engine will not rev beyond 3000-4000 RPM:
1.Connect an inductive Tachometer to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem. If two cylinders on the same end of the switch box are dropping out, the problem is likely going to be either the switch box or trigger. A single cylinder dropping fire will likely be the switch box or ignition coil. All cylinders acting up usually indicate a bad stator.
2.Connect a DVA meter to the stator’s Blue wire and Blue/White wires and do a running test. The DVA voltage should jump up to well over 200V and stabilize. A drop in voltage right before the problem occurs indicates a bad stator. (Blue to Blue if the engine has a Red stator kit installed).
3.Connect a DVA meter to the Red wire and Red/White wires and do a running test. The DVA voltage should show a smooth climb in voltage and remain high through the RPM range. A reading lower than what is on the Blue wires indicates a bad stator.
High Speed Miss:
1.Connect an inductive Tachometer to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem. A high variance in RPM on one cylinder indicates a problem usually in the switch box or ignition coil. Occasionally a trigger will cause this same problem. Check the trigger as described above under “No fire or Intermittent on One or More Cylinders”.
2.Perform a high-speed shutdown and read the spark plugs. Check for water. A crack in the block can cause a high speed miss when the water pressure gets high, but a normal shutdown will mask the problem.
3.Remove the flywheel and check the triggering and charge coil flywheel magnets for cracks or broken magnets.
Four Cylinder Engines
1996-2000
Engines Using a Combination Switch Box and Ignition Coil (CDM Modules)
No Fire At All:
1.Disconnect the black/yellow kill wires from the harness and RPM Limiter. Retest. If the engine’s ignition fires now, the kill circuit has a fault-possibly the keyswitch, harness or shift switch.
2.Disconnect the yellow wires from the stator to the rectifier and retest. If the engine fires, replace the rectifier.
3.Check the cranking RPM. A cranking speed less than 250-RPM will not allow the system to fire properly.
4.Check the stator resistance and DVA output as given below:
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
White/Green Green/White 500-700 180V or more
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No fire or Intermittent on One or More Cylinders:
1.If the cylinders are only acting up above an idle, connect an inductive RPM meter to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem cylinders.
2.Using a set of piercing probes, check the trigger DVA output as given below:
Wire Read To Resistance DVA
Purple wire
White wire
Brown wire
Engine GND
Engine GND
Engine GND Open
Open
Open 3V or more
3V or more
3V or more
•NOTE: These triggers have the bias circuitry built into them, therefore you cannot measure the resistance like you could the older engines. In addition, there are four triggering coils used.
3.Disconnect one of the CDM modules that are firing at a time and see if the dead module start firing. If it does, the module you just unplugged is bad.
High Speed Miss:
1.Connect an inductive RPM meter to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem. A high variance in RPM on one cylinder indicates a problem usually in the switch box or ignition coil. Occasionally a trigger will cause this same problem. Check the trigger as described above under “No fire or Intermittent on One or More Cylinders”.
2.Perform a high-speed shutdown and read the spark plugs. Check for water. A crack in the block can cause a high speed miss when the water pressure gets high, but a normal shutdown will mask the problem.
3.Remove the flywheel and check the triggering and charge coil flywheel magnets for cracks or broken magnets.
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