Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

[Hook'Em Danno]

Hey guy's,
Have read lot's of ID topics but can't seem to ID mine. Have just brought myself my first boat and powering my new fishing catcher is a Chrysler 45hp 1970 - something...

I have got the Cowl off and the ID plate reads:-
Model - 45
Serial - 4268
It is hard to read but cleaned up and 99% sure this is right. I'm in New Zealand so different numbers for exported motors or semi-constructed here?
Been to MasterTech Marine and can't find these numbers?
what am i missing?
Help,
Dan

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Quite honestly, I don't know those numbers either. However, they are ID from before Chrysler went to the (for example) 45-- HA, HB, HC system. I do know that one of your four numbers ( I forget which order they are) indicates ignition type and one indicates shaft length. Another will indicate tiller or remote steering and the last indicates electric or pull start. For example, my 1967 55 HP was 5555. This indicated magneto ignition, electric start, long shaft, remote controls and steering.

I can say your engine is prior to 1970, most likely mid to late '60s. These engines were all built with the same components and almost everything from a 35, 45, 55 of that era will swap into it.

Hope that helps some.

 

[wickware]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Please post some pics of the motor with the cowl off. You might find some related info on page 2 in a related post, ?Identifying a Chrysler outboard?, by Spooner2010. jow

 

[Hook'Em Danno]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Hello again, thanks guys.

Have a look at these pic's from the site I brought it off (if they work). If you need different angles let me know - any comments on the engine welcome!

Thanks again guys.

 

[rickryder]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

http://www.marineparts.com/partspages/techhelp/tech5.htm try here

 

[Hook'Em Danno]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

http://www.marineparts.com/partspages/techhelp/tech5.htm try here

Thanks for the link rickryder - i couldn't find my numbers but from looking at the other models the '4' of the 4268 probably means 1964. still not a 100% sure what parts to get. I see the manuals are from 1966 - will this help with my 1964 Chrysler 45HP? are the parts used from the 60's to the 70's?

Thanks again for your help guys much appreciated - way over on the other side of the world!

 

[Nordin]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Looking at the cowl it can be from 1973 to 1977. 1972 the decal 45 was red at black background and 1978 Chrysler changed the decals to glued stripes and letters/numbers. 1973 until 1977 was all the same.
I am not sure but I think Chrysler used the hydrodart gearcase until 1974, but I am not 100%.

 

[rickryder]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Chrysler bought out West Bend Outboards in January,1965. This first year they were known as a Chrysler/West Bend outboard.
So Chrysler entered the boat and the outboard market with the 1966 model year.
Maybe you have a West Bend number

Can you get a pic of the model # plate? I have looked all over and can't find those #'s anywhere

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Looking at the hood, the engine is somewhere in the early 70s. Maybe a little later since the fuel pump is the second generation, mounted on the bypass cover instead of a separate glass bowl type.

The first year Chryslers were really curvy with almost the exact West Bend engine Cover and lower cowl. By 67, the cowl and cover were squared into the shape your engine now has, BUT there was no rear air intake like yours. These was also a metal protrusion almost like a handle at the top rear of the cover. Cooling water intake was on the exhaust snout. Your engine appears to have the cooling intake on the leg above the gearcase torpedo, making it later than 1960s. --That is, unless the lower unit was replaced at some time.

The four numbers you have are a MODEL number and have no bearing as to year of manufacture. Only later did this change.

As I wrote above, these engines were made for a number of years with only minor changes--indeed, even the earlier Force 50 HP was almost a direct derivative of the 35, 45, 50, and 55 Chrysler and the exact same prop was used for all years. Thus, Almost every component is swappable. The only major differences were the carb and, cranksheft, and pistons. (Less bore and stroke on the 35) Even there, the crank could be swapped into the larger block with only a minor performance loss.

SO: If you need parts, find them off any Chrysler junk engine.

 

[Hook'Em Danno]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

That is great information guys, so the outboard could be a bit-zer but parts from a large era are usable - which is great for me.

Will get a shot of the ID plate for all those that like a mystery. (really hard to see)

Got an impeller on the way - isn't pushing water out the midleg exhaust - yet. If that fixes the water cycle problem then i'm off fishing.

If not well....

Back to the manual.

Thanks again - the crew here are awesome

 

[Nordin]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

The cowl/hood on your engine is from 1973 and later up to 1977, I am 100% of that if the hood have not been swaped.
I have factorybrochuers from 1968 and up and as I said 1973-1977.

 

[Hook'Em Danno]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

Here is a picture of the plate - hard to read I know. 99% sure the last digit is a 8 (not 9) so
model:- 45
Serial:- 4268

good luck detectives.

 

[carholme]

Re: Tricky ID on 70 something Chrysler 45hp?

I downloaded the picture and blew it up and the model number looks like a model 4545 which would make it a 1969 engine. This is not to dispute the other posters information, it is based only on what I see in the data plate picture.

Gerry