Trailer winch wont get tight..

darin99

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I've got a crank type trailer winch, and I've noticed here recently that when I go to tighten it down, it keeps slipping and will not get tight. Is this due to bad webbing, or what might be the problem? thanks
 

NYGiants

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

gears stripped or hardware needs to be tightened?
 

burp

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

Unwind the webbing to see if the webbing is intact and the one end attached to the winch spool.
 

rwidman

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

I agree it probably isn't attached to the spool.

That would keep it from getting tight and it might also let the boat slip off the trailer before you expect it. It's something that needs to be checked ASAP.

BTW: Winch straps deteriorate if left outdoors in the sun. Depending on exposure, they should be inspected and replaced every few years.
 

ghamby

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

Once you get a few turns on under tension the strap should hold. Run the strap
ALL the way out. Do check the attachment to the winch. Hook the strap to
something solid on the trailer and wind in a little tension. Is the problem where
the strap anchors, the handle bolt, the gear to drum connection? In the long
run a new winch is cheaper than recovering a boat scattered on the interstate.
 

road kill

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

If the strap is attached, you may just be seeing the strap slip on itself as it stretches. I tried a winch strap once, the first time I hauled the boat on the trailer, I cranked it what felt like a 100 times before the strap got tight.
That was a brand new, 4" wide name brand strap. It got better with use, and about the time it felt as good as rope or cable, it broke. I stick to either poly or nylon rope, or stainless cable now. I also found that straps hold water, which rusts out the spool faster. I suppose even faster if in saltwater.
A strap might be find for a small boat but forget it for heavier boats. I also hate how hard it is to keep the strap flat, it always seems to want to climb one side of the winch spool or the other when retrieving the boat. If the wind is pushing the boat to the left, the strap tries to wind towards that side and often folds over on itself.
 

rwidman

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

If the strap is attached, you may just be seeing the strap slip on itself as it stretches. I tried a winch strap once, the first time I hauled the boat on the trailer, I cranked it what felt like a 100 times before the strap got tight.
That was a brand new, 4" wide name brand strap. It got better with use, and about the time it felt as good as rope or cable, it broke. I stick to either poly or nylon rope, or stainless cable now. I also found that straps hold water, which rusts out the spool faster. I suppose even faster if in saltwater.
A strap might be find for a small boat but forget it for heavier boats. I also hate how hard it is to keep the strap flat, it always seems to want to climb one side of the winch spool or the other when retrieving the boat. If the wind is pushing the boat to the left, the strap tries to wind towards that side and often folds over on itself.

Not my experience at all. The original winch with a steel cable required a lot of excess ctanking because the cabe coiled up. Then the turns jammed against each other. And it was rough on the hands. I can only imagine what it would have been like once it got a little rust on it.

I replaced the winch with one that used a strap and had absolutely no trouble with slipping, holding water, or breaking. I replaced it as a preventive maintenance issue after about four years and the replacement worked just as well. The strap always wound straight and flat on the spool. It never folded over on itself. This was loading a 6,000 lb boat.

If I were trailering a boat again, I would consider nothing but a winch with a strap, not a cable.
 

road kill

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

I'm loading a 1,000 lb boat and a 1,500 lb boat, both do the same thing. It got better once I added a set of guide ons to the small boat but I still have to guide the strap with one hand and crank with the other or it folds over or abrades on one side of the spool. To get it tight, I crank an additional 10 or 12 cranks before it tightens up, and by the time I get home, about 5 miles, its loose again. The strap seems to compress on the spool or stretch. Both straps are from well known makers, one is a Sea Sense, the other I believe is from Boater's World, not sure of the brand. I also oversized the bolts on both since the 1/4" and 5/16" bolts that fit the spool kept bending under load. I put in 3/8" grade 8 bolts on both. I also find that with a strap, I have to run a much larger winch than I normally would need just to fit the entire 20 or 25' strap onto the spool. On my 19' boat, the strap is 3" wide, 25' long, I had to buy a 5,500 lb winch to hold the whole strap, the next size down had too small of a spool. On the larger spool, the strap barely comes to 1/3rd spool. I've also had several straps pull their stitching out where they attached to the bow hook, I've had 4 of the 3" wide straps fail so far, those that failed gave out in the yard and never once winched in a boat. They gave out when I first tightened up against the boat. All are marked Heavy Duty, 10,000lb rated. So much for a rating I guess. Having so many fail like that made me so leery of them I went back to cables. I do use only high end Stainless steel aircraft cable. The good cable will last for many years, won't rust, and is much softer than cheap factory installed winch cable.
Of course, none of my boats will ever even come close to stressing any cable. Cable also don't degrade in direct sunlight as a strap can.
 

Mark42

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

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A strap might be find for a small boat but forget it for heavier boats. I also hate how hard it is to keep the strap flat, it always seems to want to climb one side of the winch spool or the other when retrieving the boat. If the wind is pushing the boat to the left, the strap tries to wind towards that side and often folds over on itself.

Straps are great for big boats too. That is why they are made in those sizes. Be sure the strap used is rated for the load its pulling.

As far as straps folding over, this is common if the winch is not square on the trailer. Folding happens when under load, when the boat is riding up the bunks or rollers. By that point, the boat and winch should be in line and the strap will roll up nice.

BTW, rope holds water too. I replaced rope with strap because the rope would wear and fray fast, and the strap doesn't. But both are wear item that need replacing regularly.
 

nlain

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Re: Trailer winch wont get tight..

I have had rope, I have had cable, I currently have a strap winch. It is the best of all that I have had, ropes and cables wedge themselves on the spool, ropes fray fairly quick and cables do the same and tear your hands up when you handle them. I will always have a strap winch until someone makes something I think is better. The strap always spools up straight, flat and tight.
 
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