Trailer ground - Grrr...

Bubba1235

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Decided to replace the lighting on my flat bed trailer (car hauler) and make the change to LEDs and rerun the wiring inside a PVC conduit. No problems with that at all, took an hour tops.

Using a four wire flat connector I grounded the ground lead to the truck and did the same on the trailer side of the connector. Sometimes I had lights, some lights, or dim lights. Fussed with the grounding of each light for a half hour and still had problems. Final solution, I ran a ground from each light back to the wiring harness connector and no more problems.

Still not certain how an all steel trailer loses ground but it was, or the grounding points did. Just an FYI: If you decide to re-wire consider running one extra wire as a ground, could save you a traffic ticket (or worse) at some point.
 

sublauxation

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

I finally did that last summer and it's been problem free ever since, makes me wonder why I messed with it the other way for so many years.
 

jayhanig

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Still not certain how an all steel trailer loses ground but it was, or the grounding points did. Just an FYI: If you decide to re-wire consider running one extra wire as a ground, could save you a traffic ticket (or worse) at some point.

My understanding is that not all parts of a trailer are necessarily welded so parts can move slightly in relation to one another. That might be enough to break the ground. I can't swear that it's true but I can swear I read it somewhere recently.
 

rockyrude

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Anyplace the trailer is bolted not welded is a place that can rust between pieces. Doesn't take much to screw up a ground.
 

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Changed my trailer lights to LED a couple years ago. When I was wiring it up I decided to just back the truck up enough to connect the 4 flat harness. Couldn't get the lights to come on. Not sure why but I had to drop the trailer coupling onto the hitch to get them to work.
 

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Changed my trailer lights to LED a couple years ago. When I was wiring it up I decided to just back the truck up enough to connect the 4 flat harness. Couldn't get the lights to come on. Not sure why but I had to drop the trailer coupling onto the hitch to get them to work.

Because you had no ground until you dropped the trailer on the ball. You are grounding with the ball. It works ok but better to have wires grounding the system.
 

sublauxation

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Changed my trailer lights to LED a couple years ago. When I was wiring it up I decided to just back the truck up enough to connect the 4 flat harness. Couldn't get the lights to come on. Not sure why but I had to drop the trailer coupling onto the hitch to get them to work.

Before wiring my grounds into the harness I had problems every time I drove on dirt roads. The coupler would get gritty and nasty and my lights got real dim.
 

bigdee

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Because LED lights have much less current draw than incandescent lights a good ground is essential. A dedicated ground wire needs to be run to each light.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

Decided to replace the lighting on my flat bed trailer (car hauler) and make the change to LEDs and rerun the wiring inside a PVC conduit. No problems with that at all, took an hour tops.

Using a four wire flat connector I grounded the ground lead to the truck and did the same on the trailer side of the connector. Sometimes I had lights, some lights, or dim lights. Fussed with the grounding of each light for a half hour and still had problems. Final solution, I ran a ground from each light back to the wiring harness connector and no more problems.

Still not certain how an all steel trailer loses ground but it was, or the grounding points did. Just an FYI: If you decide to re-wire consider running one extra wire as a ground, could save you a traffic ticket (or worse) at some point.

Flat 4 on a car hauler??? Does it have surge brakes? Just not common to use a flat 4 on a larger trailer....

Because LED lights have much less current draw than incandescent lights a good ground is essential. A dedicated ground wire needs to be run to each light.

Agree.....nice lights but ground hungry!


LOL I have an old tilt trailer and I had to run a ground strap between the tilt parts. Mine is ground hungry too.
 

rbh

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Re: Trailer ground - Grrr...

As I have never used the LED trailer lights before, is there an issue with a balanced +- with them?

(OHMs resistance higher on one leg than the other)
 
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