trailer bearing help needed

[SigSaurP229]

I am stumped I have driven the races in as far as they will go. They hub will seat on the spindle all the way backbto the inner bearing but it will not seat far enough back for the outer bearing. I have tried two different hubs. Its a 3500 lb axle 1 3/8 inner 1 inch outer. I have driven on the races for 2 hours with a 5 lb sledge and the will not move another millimeter.

 

[Snowfish]

Either part of the old bearing is still on the spindle, or the spindle itself has burrs. Inner bearing needs to slide Easily to the seal shoulder. Stop pounding and go get some new bearings. Wouldn't trust them with all that beating.

If part of the old bearing is still there, cut it off. Then sand the spindle with emery cloth until the bearing slides, by hand, to the seal shoulder. A flat file can be used on the obvious high spots.

 

[SigSaurP229]

I have all new bearings to put on. There is nothing left on the spindle and the inner bearing does slide all the way to the seal shoulder

 

[SigSaurP229]

This was the spindle cleaned up.

 

[lckstckn2smknbrls]

Did you install the race backwards?

 

[Snowfish]

No Title

Right on, but the outer bearing race looks like it needs to seat more. But that's what you're having trouble doing, right? A good bearing & race too should seat the new race into the hub. If not, new hubs are $20 or less.
ps. dang the new I-Boat format is hard to work with! or it could be just me.

 

[SigSaurP229]

Nope races are installed correctly and I have beat on that outer race for 2hours with a 10lb sledge and it will not go any farther. The new race will not move anymore.

 

[Starcraft5834]

New hubs w bearings/races installed by manf? Just a thought...u get new hubs that dont need to be beat on..

 

[bruceb58]

When I install races, I use one of these:
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-bearing-race-and-seal-driver-set-95853.html

I also throw the race in the freezer overnight to make install easier.

You likely have your race cocked and that is why it wouldn't go on anymore. You need to remove it, check for burrs and reinstall.

Same applys to the the inner race. Are you sure it's in all the way?

 

[SigSaurP229]

I rented that tool from Autozone, the races don't look crooked at all, but it may just be me.

 

[bwkre]

Hi,
It's hard to see from your picture of the spindle but it almost looks like the old inner race is still on the spindle? Did you compare your old bearing to the new ones for size? Just a thought. Maybe post a picture of the spindle from the side. Outer bearing should be 1 1/16". I've never see a 3500lb axle with a 1" outer bearing. Not saying it doesn't exist, just never seen it.

 

[ronboonville]

take the other hub off and see if you are overlooking something obvious...

 

[lckstckn2smknbrls]

This was the spindle cleaned up.

It looks like part of the inner bearing is still on the spindle.

 

[mla2ofus]

Like bwkre said I'd like to see a pic of the spindle from the front or back. I may be wrong but it looks like the old inner race of the inner brg is still there.
Mike

 

[Starcraft5834]

yep,, you've got a race stuck on the axle shaft.. take penetrating oil to it, let it sit and take a hammer and hit it. blows towards the end of the axle, hit it (tap it) all way around, hopefully it will come loose off there. it should.. the same thing happened to me early last year.. I had an old axle and installed a new one to avoid this problem again, when you get it off, keep in mind when you press in the new race into that hub.. (the one that came loose) the new race may not take..ie- stay there.. you have "spun that race". that's why it came loose..as you know, the race is locked in there, your's came loose.. they are not suppose to stick on the axle when you remove the hub. this one did.. once you get that race off, your back in business.... that's why the hub was short on the axle.. the race stuck on there is taking up that room u needed. hopefully pounding on it with the sledge did not permanently seal it on that axle,, i doubt it,, only thing holding it there is grime and friction.. no threads.. you should be able to get that off,,good luck! that's why Im an advocate of new axle installs.. they are not very expensive and milled to spec, not dinged up.. just MHO

 

[Starcraft5834]

Sig.. you can probably get a pipe wrench or channel locks on that too......twist/pound it off.. good luck!

 

[Silvertip]

If you really have an axle with a 1-3/8 inch inner and a 1-inch outer bearing you have a real odd ball axle. A 1750# spindle (3500# axle) almost always has a 1-3/8 inner bearing and a 1-1/16 outer bearing. If you really have a 1-inch bearing it is no wonder it doesn't fit. However, look at the axle carefully. Note the item that sits right at the point where the threads end. That piece is probably the old outer bearing race that should not be there. Since you've been hammering on things it is difficult to tell what you've buggered up. Both bearings are a nice easy slip fit on the spindle.

 

[ronboonville]

I had this problem last week. I used an angle grinder to cut the inner race, then a cold chisel to finish the cut. Then a flat file to smooth.

 

[redneck joe]

sig I've watched your stuff for a while now, you are smarter than an axle....



I'm betting wrong size? Were the old ones still in decent enough shape to get the numbers off of?

 

[SigSaurP229]

I don't get it, I know the bearings are the right size. I had a typo in the thread as its actually a 1 1/16" outer and 1 3/8" inner. This is actually the trailer that the bearings Kaboomed on me back in January. The one that the seller swore up and down was in good shape.


And for the record I have absolutely not beat on anything other than the race to get it seated. I am almost wondering if the seller stuffed an old incorrect hub, on the trailer and told me the bearings and seals were just done, and maybe this should be a specialty short hub. (that same seller tried to tell me the compression on the 75hp Evinrude was 140 dead even on all three cylinders)

I am not sure what to do with it.