tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

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I went to chatuge sunday morning so calm and nice. The wind got up and wow, what aride to the ramp at 10 o clock. This boat really got me worried in the rough water. Man i wih i would have had a Ranger! I got soaked and scared the crap outa me!
 

ezmobee

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

A ranger is a bass boat....certainly wouldn't be any safer in rough water.
 

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

Yup, bass boats, pretty much accross the board, not for rough water. You'd need a center console or something like that. . .
 
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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

As stated, a Ranger wouldn't have handled the rough water any better but it would be easier to recover after sinking!

What you need is a bigger boat and/or better training for being in rough conditions.
 

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...What you need is a bigger boat and/or better training for being in rough conditions.

There may be some truth there. I have had my 14-footer out on Champlain often and in some rough stuff there as well as Oneida. It would seem something was not right to have a 17' boat and find it insufficient on a 12-mile-long lake even in a blow. That boat is fairly light, though, and if run on plane in some rough stuff it probably is a little bit of kidney buster even at 17'. I would just add some weight :) or get a deep vee.
 

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With almost no gunwales to speak of, and a deadrise angle measured in single digits, are they boats or fancy floating boards with engines?

When you measure your sea conditions in inches, it's time to get the hel# out of there if you get 1-footers.

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It's all about hull design, not length (well, first is the captain's skill).

A 17' whaler can handle anything; in fact a 13' whaler is safer than a 17' bass boat. And even deep V, shallow V or flat bottom is not the determining factor; the amount of freeboard; laps, chines and gunwales; flare, and other top-side considerations are very important. The Carolina Skiff J series, perfectly flat bottom, is incredibly dry and safe due to high sides and more important, rolled gunwales. Even among jonboats, a rolled rail makes all the difference.

yes, it's a bumpy ride but this is about safety, not comfort.

then, it's preferable to have a self bailing hull, or at least be able to pull the plug while running, than to rely on a bilge pump and a floor drain.
 

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

Yesterdays winds in GA were a constant 15-20 gusting to 35, not the best for small inland lake fishing boats. Best to check the conditions before going out, no one with those rigs was out yesterday around here, just whitecaps on normally calm lakes.
 

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your boat is designed for a certain purpose....once the conditions change....you are not using the correct tool for the job.

get a different tool.....or go to where you boat will work properly with out killing you
 

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

A nice heavy fiberglass Ranger bass boat will handle rougher water than the OP's glorified aluminum jon boat. (No offense meant, OP. Your boat is fine for its intended purpose.)
 

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A nice heavy fiberglass Ranger bass boat will handle rougher water than the OP's glorified aluminum jon boat. (No offense meant, OP. Your boat is fine for its intended purpose.)

How much rougher ?
 
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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

Thanks i just had to bounce my stupidity off someone. Rangers will handle rough inland waters better than some people think, TRUST ME my old boss put me in some places i didnt want to be in one. Haha. I just wanted to get on the water and put myself in a bad place. I guess you just cant fix STUPID! Haha LESSON LEARNED!
 

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

If the OP had used the words "beat" and "pounded" instead of "scared" and "worried" I'd be more inclined to agree. A heavier fiberglass boat like a Ranger would certainly ride better than an aluminum Tracker. However, using the words that he did implied more of a safety concern which is why a number of us have mentioned that a Ranger style bass boat is certainly no safer in snotty water.
 

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I've been in 18' bass boats that took 2'-3' chop reasonably well.

You must measure chop of lot differently than we do down here. I would not dream of taking a bass boat with freeboard measured in inches out in a 2-foot chop. Once we get to 3’, a lot of the 40-45' charter boat are not leaving the dock and you sure as heck would not get me out there.
 

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agreed. there's chop and there's swells (including wakes). Also, there is the distinction between a short run across a rough area and a long haul fighting it.
 

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You must measure chop of lot differently than we do down here. I would not dream of taking a bass boat with freeboard measured in inches out in a 2-foot chop. Once we get to 3’, a lot of the 40-45' charter boat are not leaving the dock and you sure as heck would not get me out there.

I had my Astroglass '89 FishNSki in wind-generated waves close to 6' high in a TX lake. You couldn't see any land what-so-ever when I was at the bottom of the wave. A Bass boat will take waves, it's the captain who can sink the boat if he doesn't know what he's doing. Was it a rough ride? Without a doubt it was but we didn't have any problems making it to weigh-in.
 

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You must measure chop of lot differently than we do down here. I would not dream of taking a bass boat with freeboard measured in inches out in a 2-foot chop. Once we get to 3’, a lot of the 40-45' charter boat are not leaving the dock and you sure as heck would not get me out there.

I am not a fan of bass boats in the rough stuff either. But as you may recall from the past and my signature will remind you I only have a 14' boat, closed bow. I trolled 2-to-3s on Feb 17 (Champlain) with a couple taller ones mixed in to keep us honest. Although it wasn't easy fishing out in the open we were able to get behind the lee of a few miles of shoreline and as predicted it laid down after a bit. If we didn't accept some waves there would be way too many days we couldn't fish.

Those waves perhaps ARE measured differently; when I was a kid when someone referred to a 3-foot-sea they meant 6' from bottom of low point to the top of the swell. At least up here at Champlain a 3' sea means 3-feet from the bottom to the top of the wave which makes sense and keeps people from having to constantly translate and explain themselves since NOAA uses the top-to-bottom for wave height predictions as well: Lake Champlain Wave Height Forecasting Model And 3' on Champlain might be rollers with one wind direction and speed while being nasty breakers. 3-footers with 5-15mph winds from any direction are usually safe and fishable, while 3-footers in 15-30mph winds are dangerous. Steady north or south winds can build for 30 miles and make it downright dangerous.

I guess I would not be interested at all in a TX17. And I do remember a story from a big tourney on Erie a few years ago where a bunch of bass boats had been swamped in six-footers.

As far as my little boat, I try to avoid bigger seas- not fun to fish in- with 2-3s the margin of safety shrinks a lot. But I have safely navigated 3-4s (unplanned) without worry and without water in the boat although my attention factor was pretty high. Last summer at Oneida (NY) I started a 6-mile W-SW run with 2-3s a W wind. Being experienced with seas in this range I was not concerned. The predictions were for it to calm down as the morning progressed, and I left after the worst wind of the morning was predicted. I ran easy- about 8mph- keeping the bow up running about 15 degrees S of the W wind. Then the wind started howling about 3-4 miles out. I found myself in steady 3-4s with more than a few 5-footers, some back to back. Concluded one more time I would never own an open-bowed small boat! I did snap a couple pictures with my phone:
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I wasn't going to troll in that nor was I going to put my stern to the wind to head back to the dock, either. The south shore was only about a mile to my port at that point. There was quite a fleet of boats getting pounded out near the popular mid-lake shoals. Nothing as small as my boat! I ran past them planning to keep my heading to a marina on the south west shore if needed. Then it suddenly calmed so I got my fishing in- 6" little waves the rest of the morning. Not something I would have planned and I wouldn't recommend that in any 14'. And although I had/have a lot of confidence in the little boat (had if for almost 20 years) it sure did change my confidence level more than anything has since I have owned the boat.

The point is: that day I was scared a little- not so much for my life (water temps were high 70s) but for losing all my tackle! It was awe inspiring for sure! The boat did it- if TX17 doesn't inspire that confidence I would get rid of it so fast. That's how I bought this boat- a bad blow came up with 2-3s and the boat I had then (14' aluminum, open, not much freeboard) didn't impress me. I sold it by tuesday and owned the Niagara on Saturday of the same week. It has passed every test you could ever give a 14'-er which is why I still have it. (I am, however, slowly working on a second boat: a 19' project- closed bow, of course.)
 

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Re: tracker tx 17 not for rough water!

having had a Bass Tracker III in the family years ago, I learned to have the hourly forecast with dad and I. learned early that bass boats and rough water dont mix.

in the past few years, I have rescued many bass boats on the bay of green bay. they go out for a tourny throw out a small aft anchor and then the wind changes. next thing you see is a swamped boat with a guy frantically waiving his arms while all his tackle is slowly sinking. its kind of sickening to see a big merc just barely bobbing above the surface in 2' chop.

bass boats no matter what the construction material do not handle rough water vary well. they do go in near glass smooth really shallow water while fishing for bass.
 

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I've documented my peeve about how people toss around terms such as "3' chop".

Chop refers to waves that are frequent, close and sometimes the tops are falling or being blown off.

Chop is not a wake. If you navigate boats over 4' wakes, that doesn't mean 4' chop is something you want to be in.

Swells and rollers: We've all explained this before. A 14' row boat can ride over massive swells and rollers all day and night, with the gamble being that the timing and frequency of the rollers doesn't change. However, rollers won't go on all day and night; it's more likely they will die off or turn into heavy seas (big azz chop). Small craft advisories: Every time you hear one, check out the seas or listen to the wave height they mention. Gonna argue with guys posting craft advisories?

So, even if your boat is like that row boat just bobbing like a cork over 4-6' swells/rollers, the wind that drove those rollers up is either going to relent or the duration of time over the water for the wind is going to push those seas into something messy.

At the end of the day, aside from people who ride out rough seas, the average boat and boater is best in calm seas, light chop and not much more. Most V hulled boats love light chop. Longer V hull boats can fly over 1-2' chop.

Any low-freeboard bass boat: Not the way to handle real chop. Within that segment of boats, you can further divide the way they handle chop against each other.
 
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