Tounge Weight

TheWoodCrafter

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How do I figure what the tounge weight should be for my little 15ft boat?
I am redoing the trailer and need to set the axle in the right place.
It is an adjustable axle/trailer.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Tounge Weight

what is the total weight of everything boat, trailer, motor, with the boat loaded for the water. you want 10-15% tongue weight.
 

Fingernip

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Re: Tounge Weight

Check out your local landfill. They should have a large scale you can weigh it on. They probably wont print it out for you as an official number, but they will tell you.
 

TheWoodCrafter

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Re: Tounge Weight

Thanks guys.
10-15% what I needed.
I think we have a moving and storage place around here that will weigh.
Thanks.
 

Alan Hicks

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Re: Tounge Weight

About 45% from the tail end of your load should get you in the ball park. It depends though. I like a heavy weight on my truck, so I tend to move the axle further back on the trailer for more tongue and weight better cornering. What kind of tow vehicle are you using and what's the approximate weight of the trailer and boat, or do you even know yet?
 

TheWoodCrafter

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Re: Tounge Weight

I am towing with an F150. Don't have anything on the boat/trailer yet. Still in a thousand pieces.
What do you mean 45% from the tail end?
 

Alan Hicks

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Re: Tounge Weight

I mean if your axle is placed a little further aft from the center point of your load (in this case your boat) you should be in the ballpark, assuming your load (boat) isn't tail heavy. If you've got a light boat with a big heavy outboard, you may need to move the axle further back than that.
 

TheWoodCrafter

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Re: Tounge Weight

It is a light boat with a big O.B. on it or will be.
I will have to weigh it when complete and I guess use a bathroom scale under the tounge.
 

MaxOD

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Re: Tounge Weight

With a light boat I'd still try to keep a 100lbs on the tounge fully loaded for traveling. If the rig weighs in at around 800lbs, 10 to 15% would be around 100lbs. Any less and it could walk on you from side to side. A light outboard tends to be back heavy if you keep fuel or a battery back there and it won't take much to lighten up your tongue weight with additional gear if its piled behind the wheels.
 

Alan Hicks

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Re: Tounge Weight

Basically, here's how it works. The amount of torque exerted by the tail end of the load should be roughly 90% of the torque exerted by the front of the load. Let's say you have a load that weighs 200 pounds and is evenly distributed along the length of a 20 foot trailer (ridiculous, I know). If you put the axle half-way along the trailer at the 10 foot mark, the axle would essentially balance the entire load and there would be no tongue weight at all. This trailer would dolphin on you up and down the road, very dangerous.

Now let's say you moved that axle to 8 feet from the rear of the trailer. Now you have 8 feet behind the axle and 12 feet in front of it. Using some fancy math, you figure the torque on the back half (trying to raise the tonque and drop the back) is -320ft-lbs. The amount of torque up front (trying to drop the tonque and raise the back) is 720ft-lbs. The trailer would be very tonque heavy, perhaps too much for your tow vehicle.

A more ideal measurement would be 9 feet from aft, giving you torque numbers of -365ft-lbs and 605ft-lbs, which would be somewhat reasonable. Of course, these numbers assume that the load is evenly distributed. In practice, this is impossible with a boat.

In your case, the heavy outboard and light body is going to place much more torque on the rear of the boat than on the fore, so you'll have to move your axle back further. How much I can't say without some numbers. How much does your boat roughly weigh, how long is your trailer (including any portion of the boat that hangs off the back) and how heavy is your outboard? With that info, we can get pretty darn close.
 

kenmyfam

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Re: Tounge Weight

I'm with Tashasdaddy on this. 10% to 15% is the magic figure.
Depending on what you load in your outfit and where will can and will alter the weight considerably. The bathroom scales are worth their weight in gold for this purpose. After you have loaded up a couple of times you will know what to load and where.
Good Luck.
 
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