Tohatsu 90hp TLDI errors and self-diagnosis functions

chartscharts

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Howdy!

Yesterday I took my new-to-me 2010 Tohatsu MD90c2 out on the water for the first time.

After engine ran, even in neutral at idle, for a few minutes, it would have all three lights blink on the tach, and RPM wouldn't go above 3000ish. Stopping/starting the engine didn't seem to make a difference.

Service Manual says "TPS does not function" as the problem there, and that it was "self-diagnosable." I tried the reset TPS process on the water, but I'm not 100% sure I got it right. It didn't seem to make any difference.

So, back at home, I ran the self-diagnosis. and the tach read 6600, with the oil light flashing, and the battery light on solid. There wasn't an exact match in the service manual for that code. Closest was tach6000 with those lights which says "#2TPS power voltage low with wiring or component was once broken/malfunctioned."

I pushed the key in again to get the next fault code, and the only thing that changed was the blinking oil light went solid. The closest match was "#2TPS power voltage high with wiring or component was once broken/malfunctioned" which is of course the opposite of the first code.

Pushed the key in again to get the next fault code and it gave me an exact match for "Oil pump malfunction" which didn't make sense to me.

So I wondered if that was fault history. Not sure if I was looking at the current fault or the fault history, I went through the procedure to delete the fault history.

After that, I ran the self-diagnosis again, and this time it said no errors. Huh.

So, I started the engine on the muffs to try to replicate the original problem I had on the water. No luck. Ran great. Let me RPM up to 4000. No flashing lights. Started/stopped several times but never was able to get any lights or problems. At this point, I realized I should have run on the muffs before doing the self-diagnosis to replicate the problem at home before troubleshooting, but I'm a knucklehead.

Anyway, here's my questions:

1. Does the "delete fault history" function actually clear/reset anything? I thought it was just erasing history. Does it actually reset something?

2. Is there any kind of fault that would be consistent with these symptoms and only happen in the water and not on the muffs?

3. Other ideas about what might be happening?

Thanks in advance.
 

pvanv

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You zapped the codes. If there is a problem they will come back.
 

pvanv

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6500 and oil is overheat. Flashing oil is severe overheat.
Maybe you ran over a garbage bag?
 

baycruiser 217

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My experience and procedure is No 1 always chek telltale must be good always if not your compressor is not being cooled no2 remove oil pump and clean thoroughly earths below bottom screw an awkward job but it pays big these earths seem to be badly located and un reliable .Now your computer will go as it has a good earth.and the sensors it relys on are properly earthed do not underestimate this .I have drilled a whole in my cowling to access this screw
 

chartscharts

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On the water today. Cleared fault history. After running with no problems for a while the 3 lights started flashing.




Self diagnostic codes were:


  1. Oil on-water off-batt on-800 RPM
  2. Oil flash-water off-batt on-2000 RPM
  3. Oil off-water off-batt on - 5000 RPM



Cleared again and ran a bit more till the three lights flashed. This time it was codes #1 and # 2 but that’s it.




Cleared and just at idle all three flashes and I got code #2. But that’s it.




Cleared and ran but just at slow speed the three lights flashed. I got code #1 and #2 but that’s it.




If I read my codes right, we have for them:


  1. #1 fuel injector malfunction (or maybe wiring.
  2. #2 ignition coil malfunction (or maybe wiring)
  3. CPS malfunction.



What do you make of the changing codes? What would you try next?




Really appreciate any advice.
 

chartscharts

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I forgot to note. I wasn’t limited to 3000 RPM during any of this. I could go up to 4000. It wouldn’t go higher. But since this is a new boat to me, I’m not sure if that’s normal.
 

pvanv

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Test injectors and coils and cps. Verify wiring, esp grounds.
 
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