Tohatsu 5hp runs and dies

EJ3

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Hello all! I am a first time poster looking for some helpful advice. I searched for the topic I am asking about with no luck, but pardon me if this is a redundant question.

I recently purchased a 12' v-hull with a 5hp Tohatsu OB engine. The engine ran on my first outing, how well I am not sure due to my inexperience. This past weekend I replaced the water pump and changed the lower unit oil. The impeller was in poor shape and I managed to get some of the "gunk" out that I could easily get to. I fired it up in my driveway with a bucket of water and the water coming out of the "peehole" was still as weak as before. But the engine ran slightly better than before. We put the boat in the water the next day to enjoy some fishing. The tide was rather low and in no time I found myself in very little water and stiring up alot of sandy bottom. Once back into deeper water I hit another soft bottom and the engine "poped up" and, without me noticing, stayed up. By that I mean the motor wasn't straight down anymore, it was on an angle and prop hardly in the water. After about 1-2 minutes of WOT the engine dies and that is when I noticed the angle of the engine. We sat anchored a while, I removed the engine cover to let it cool, and fished hoping it would start back up and get us to shore. After a sufficient amount of time passed I attempted to start the engine and it ran at idle for less than a minute and died again. More fishing occured! Again after time had passed I started it up and did not hesitate on giving it gas so we can get moving. The motor got us about 100 yards, about a minute worth of time, and died again. And you got it, more fishing! This sequence of events happened one more time and upon reaching shore, as we launch off the beach, I lowered the rpm, which seemed to let it run slightly longer, and the motor got us to shore. I did not flush the engine with clean water yet in attempts to not cause anymore damage by starting it than what might already be.

1. Could there be a lot of sand in the water pump/line causing it to die?
2. Did running it again after dying cause permanant damage?
3. Does a 1997 Tohatsu M5B, 2 cycle OB have a thermostat?
4. Should there be a steady "strong" stream of water coming for the "peehole"?
5. How do you clear the water tubes that cool the engine of obstruction, if any?
6. And any other advice as to why the engine is cutting out after the above events would be greatly appreciated!

I bought a compression gauge and plan on testing the compression tonight, as well as checking the impeller/lower unit for sand and/or blockage of some sort. And by the way, during the first time on the water the engine ran at WOT twice for about 30-40 each time with no problems.

I would greatly appreciate any advice, and sorry for such a long post!!
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: Tohatsu 5hp runs and dies

1)No.
2)Maybe
3)No
4)Yes
5)Depends on where the block, if any, is located.
6) It can be anything.

I know these answers aren't what you are looking for, but you need to test and determine if the block/pistons are damaged as well as checking the entire cooling system. This isn't a "its part x that is causing the problem" kind of problem. This is more of a "Doctor I have a pain in the stomach" kind of problem. The answer may be simple, but you have to diagnose the problem first.
 

ztim

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Re: Tohatsu 5hp runs and dies

Just about the same thing happened to me. I changed the impeller and did other tests like checking sparks and carb. Finally instead of throwing time and more money out, I took it to a marine mechanic. Turns out the head gasket was bad and the head warped. I had it milled and now it is as good as new. When I changed the impeller it really needed it. Lord knows how long the gasket had been blown since I just got the motor.
 

EJ3

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Re: Tohatsu 5hp runs and dies

Well I did the compression check, but not sure about the results. When I pull the cord just enough to fell the build up of pressure and the release of, I get 30 psi max. But when I pull the cord as if trying to start the motor I get about 110 psi built up after a couple of pulls. Is this normal, am I performing the test right?
 
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