This SHT cost me big time

Andy'sDelight

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I have a large starboard side reserve oil tank that holds at least 4 quarts, maybe more. That feeds the small portside tank on the engine so I don't have to constantly keep filling it. I check it constantly, and there is an alarm if the oil level does get low so I am typically safe from doing any damage. Well, Friday night we were heading out for a night cruise with friends and going to dock up to the restaurant. Things were bad when they showed at my house and immediately locked their keys in the truck accidentally. After taking them back to their house we were finally on our way to the Marina. By the time we got there we were all pretty hungry and still had a half hour water trip to the restaurant. Whe n I boarded I thought to myself I should check the oil, but then thought "nahhhh, there should be plenty" and the alarm will go off if there's any issues. Off in a hurry we went and motored over to the restaurant. Thanks to the delays we didn't get there till after they stopped serving food, so all the way back across the bay we had to go to another restaurant that was still serving dinner.

Well........that's where the trouble came. We undocked and headed back out to sea. I got about a mile or 2 from the restaurant, just west of the Sandy Hook tip and all of the sudden the engine started powering down. I pulled back the throttle and then the motor cut. No alarms, just cut out on me. I tried to restart and 'click'. Nothing. Thinking this might be a drained battery I switched to battery two. Click. Switched to both. Click. Realized all my electronics were working just fine and the spreaders were bright when I turned them on to get a look at the engine. Pulled the cowling and when I did it must have bumped the oil tank a little, just enough to probably jar the level float loose and off goes the low oil alarm. I looked at the portside tank and it was bone dry. Looked in the reserve....bone dry. I added oil to the portside tank and tried to start again, it fired but it was not happy at all. Called TowBoat US and took a nice 1.5 hour tow back to my marina after waiting 45 minutes for them to get to us. We ended up driving 35 minutes each way, 40 minutes to the restaurant on the water, 45 minutes waiting on TowBoat, and hour and a half being towed in, only to then have dinner at 3:30am at the diner about 5 minutes from my house. As for the engine.....two blown cylinders.

Yes the alarm should have gone off and you do count on things to work as a captain. But had I taken the 10 seconds to look at the oil levels before I left and the 2 minutes to replenish it I would have saved myself thousands of dollars. :facepalm:
 

rivermouse

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

All I can say is I bet it will NEVER happen again. sorry
 

jigngrub

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

Sorry for your misfortune... maybe you should invest in a 4 stroke now.
 

mvnvltn

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

It takes a man to share stories like these. Hopefully you get it back going again soon and maybe someone can learn from this.
 

Andy'sDelight

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

It takes a man to share stories like these. Hopefully you get it back going again soon and maybe someone can learn from this.

Yeah, I'm sharing it more in the hopes that someone out there learns from it. You can't always rely on guages and alarms, and looking at EVERYTHING before embarking is always wise.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

I lost a motor in a similar situation. Too bad you can't rely on alarms. Whenever I take my motor in to be serviced, I get them to verify all alarms. They probably just test the buzzer, though.
 

Andy'sDelight

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

Yup. The alarm actually works just fine, but the float must have gotten stuck somehow. I double checked it to determine if it was a faulty alarm or the float the next day. I pulled the float mechanism, everytime I let it drop the alarm went off. Once I raised it, alarm shut down. It worked fine, so the float definitely must have gotten stuck.
 

ufm82

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

It always seems that the one time I don't check on something or "deem" it OK, things go to hell. It's like a curse. I pride myself on taking very good care of all my vehicles, be it my truck, my car, my boat, even my lawnmower. Yet things arise that just shouldn't happen to me! LOL I feel for you AD- it's times like those that make you look back and say "why didn't I...". And to add to this whole situation, I read constantly about people wanting to disable their alarms on their boats because they think it's just a bad sensor or module and don't want to spend the couple of hundred bucks on the fix. Instead they risk ruining an engine and I have never understood that. Visual checks are a must but when you are having zero issues it's easy to forget them. Good luck on the fix. And thank you for posting- it does make me revisit my "pre-flight" checks so to speak. I have a routine before launching and it's easy to get in a hurry and forego them sometimes. Your experience reminds me that those 5 or 10 minutes spent are well worth it.
 

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

Yup. The alarm actually works just fine, but the float must have gotten stuck somehow. I double checked it to determine if it was a faulty alarm or the float the next day. I pulled the float mechanism, everytime I let it drop the alarm went off. Once I raised it, alarm shut down. It worked fine, so the float definitely must have gotten stuck.

It amazes me how something that it constantly bathed in oil could get stuck. Hopefully the rebuild will just be rings & cylinders. An expensive lesson, but those are the ones we truly remember.
 

raven7

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

Talk about some bad luck. I'm always telling the stepson to check the oil in the lawn mower before he uses it.(In one ear and out the other) It takes less time to check the oil than rebuild the engine, but he still don't care.
 

jigngrub

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

It's all about getting/being in a hurry... don't do it!

I'll wave people around me at the prelaunch area and trailering dock, because I know they're probably in a hurry and I'm not. Getting in a hurry is what makes you do the SHT.
 

jayhanig

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

I wish I could say I've never done anything boneheaded but I'm cursed from time to time. You have my complete sympathy.
 

Andy'sDelight

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

It's all about getting/being in a hurry... don't do it!

Bingo. Had I not been in a rush, I would have taken the time to check the oil. No matter how late you're running take the extra moments to go through your "preflight" checklist. I was considering repowering during the offseason so this isn't totally devastating to me, it just forces the issue earlier. Thankfully I was preparing for it monetarily or this really could have ruined my boating experience for a long time.
 

scrit9mm

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

just know that your misfortune will help others. As much as I appreciate hearing these stories to keep my routine in check, I really hate that they happen!
 

halfmoa

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

I've got to premix and I'm paranoid of forgetting to the point that I don't let anyone talk to me at the fuel pump. I stay focused on not overfilling the tank with fuel to leave room for oil, Stabil Marine, and expansion. After that it's oil immediately! I don't wait to go home, I don't pay, I don't get the kiddos a drink...just oil, oil, oil, oil, oil in my head until it's in there.

And I agree with the OP....it's amazing how something that's bathed in oil can seize....
 

Fireman431

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

Talk about some bad luck. I'm always telling the stepson to check the oil in the lawn mower before he uses it.(In one ear and out the other) It takes less time to check the oil than rebuild the engine, but he still don't care.

hen I guess the lawnmower rebuild would be on his dime, especially if you pay him to cut the grass. I used to remind my son about the sprinkler heads, but he never cared. I started charging him $10 for every one he hit. When he started having to pay out of his own pocket, it amazed me how fast he learned! Never too early to pay for a SHT.
 

H20Rat

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

The main oil tank on my boat is about 3-4 gallons or so, and I'm even paranoid about that! I won't go out if there is less than a gallon in there, I usually don't let it get below half.
 

dingbat

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

This is a good reminder that you can't have too many redundant systems on the boat.

I have a 3.4 gallon oil tank with an oil level gauge at the helm but it also has a alarm for tank level and an alarm on the fuel pump which will put the motor into SLOW mode.

Like smokingcrater, I have a 3-4 gallon oil tank as well. Anything belowa ? tank of oil is Empty as far as I?m concerned. Always keep 2 gallons of oil onboard just in case.
 

sw33ttooth

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Re: This SHT cost me big time

my dad had a real bad problem with those dam oil injected motors up in a trip to canada it decided to stop giving the engine oil [there was plenty in the tank] and it fried the motor i've also heard other stories from poeple who have done the same thing.
 
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