TC Triumph in-line muzzleloader load Info.

PAkev

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Last weekend I just purchased a Thompson Center Triumph in line muzzleloader with a Nikon BDC scope. I have been doing the flintlock thing for the past 10+ years and know the mechanics of front stuffers fairly well but in-lines are an unfamiliar arena for me. I picked up a starter kit which includes 250 grain shock wave sabots and also picked up some 300 grain sabots that were on sale, along with some Triple 7 pellets and a bottle of muzzleloader Pyrodex. I hope to see some reasonable weather this weekend so that I can take a few shots with it.

Now for my questions:

I was thinking my first shot would be with the 250 gr sabot over 100 gr. of pyrodex and work sighting in from there. Does this sound about right?

Is there any difference in performance between using the grainular (Pyrodex) powder and equivlent pellets of the same charge or is it just a matter of convenience? In flintlock Muzzleloaders I have used about 5 gr of ffffg under a pyrodex main charge for better ignition. Would this also be necessary for the pellets?

I presume that if I wanted to shoot patched roundballs, the mechanics with exception of priming would be the same as a flintlock.

Helpful advice appreciated.
 

turfman

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Re: TC Triumph in-line muzzleloader load Info.

Question 1.
Yes; theoretically it should work. You could boresite the gun first to ensure your point of aim is good. I would concentrate on 100grn at 25yds and hit paper good first. Then move up to the 150grn max and see how it groups.

Question 2.
Not supposed to be a difference, but there is. A loose granule charge will burn hotter/faster than a compressed pellet load. Will it matter; doubtful. You can use a bp kicker, but with the 209 shotgun primer you shouldn't have to. If you experience a bit of a hangfire, then add the kicker.

Question 3.
yep. But the roundballs won't preform as well as the saboted slugs in this gun.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: TC Triumph in-line muzzleloader load Info.

Just my opinion....

Stay with sabots for the best accuracy.

I would sight it in at 50 then 100 yds. I stick with 100 gr powder charge (pellets) in my in-line knight. I don't feel the 150 gr powder charge does that much better. The 1/3 extra charge and bigger wallop on the shoulder is not worth the velocity. 95% of my shots are in 100 yards or less anyway.

I have never had a hangfire or a delay using pellets. The triple 7 is cleaner and easier to clean..... DO NOT TRY 150 Gr of true BP or you could do some real damage to you and the weapon.

The Nikon bp scope with the bdc is a very good scope.
 

PAkev

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Re: TC Triumph in-line muzzleloader load Info.

Thanks for the helpful info.

I'm itching to shoot the gun but they are calling for 2-4" of snow into tomorrow. I would like close to ideal conditions for sighting in so there may not be any plinking this weekend.



Bob VT ...
I agree reasonable accuracy within 100 yards will successfully cover most hunting shots but am a little unclear why you suggest a 150 gr charge of ffG is considered dangerous. From what I've learned in purchasing the gun, the TC Triumph is the only production muzzleloader capable of magnum BP loads. The manual even publishes ballistics data with 150 gr ffG loads. If the gun is indeed capable of shooting such a load, I would like to know where it's hitting per the reticle circle on my scope and therefore would see it to be adventageous in taking a few full 150 gr. charge shots to establish this.
 
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