Stingray 20' Prop Issue

GalaxieStingray

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Hi everyone! My name is Colin, I am new to the forum. I have a 1999 Stingray LX 220 with a 5.0. The boat has major problems smoothing out. The trim and everything is working just fine. The prop on this boat is a 23. What prop should be on the boat? The thing just won?t plane out and is super bumpy until I am at full speed.

This is my first boat and I appreciate the help!
 

ktrahan75

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

1) Performance issue you are trying to correct.
2) Current prop manufacturer, model, aluminum or stainless as a minimum.
3) Current prop diameter and pitch (required).
4) Wide open throttle RPM and speed with an average load (very helpful)
5) Engine/drive make, model, year, and HP
6) Boat make model, year, length and weight

sounds like your porpoising, you may benefit from trim tabs. is your prop damaged? how high are you trimming up?
 

craze1cars

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

I have a Stingray. They are notorious for porpoising....BAD...at speed range of about 25 to 40-ish mph...then they smooth out. It is the nature of their high speed hull design, weight distribution, and their higher than normal outdrive placement.

Most Stingrays will reportedly not porpoise if you simply leave the trim all the way down for most cruising. have you tried this with yours? On mine I just leave the trim all the way down for any cruising less than about 35 or 40 mph. It certainly simplifies driving LOL! If I go faster than those speeds, only then will I can go ahead and trim out for max speed...and then it'll be smooth as silk anywhere in the range from 40 mph all the way up to 60 mph. But then when you slow down you need to make darn sure you're running that trim down as you decellerate...or the bouncing will kick in again during your slowdown procedure. With practice you get the hang of it.

I have found small benefit from going to a 4 blade prop. Many others have reported substantial benefit from installing Smart Tabs (I have not tried these as I hate Smart Tabs for wakeboarding...which happens to be my primary use). I have also done some other things that are more substantial in an effort to help this....have relocated my battery up under the dash for better weight distribution, store all heavy accessories under bow seats and nothing more than lifevests and light weight items in the engine compartment...these changes have also helped a bit.

But it is a Stingray. By definition it will porpoise no matter what, with the likely exception of adding Smart Tabs, or manual trim tabs.

I find it hard to believe that a 23 pitch prop is correct for your boat? I'm a little confused what size boat you have...your post title says 20' But you say it's a 220 LX which is a 22 foot boat, not 20. Anywho..mine is a 200 LX, 20 foot...therefore I think shorter/lighter than yours, but nearly same year/same motor....and I generally run either a 20 or 21 pitch in most prop models. I'm curious what is your top speed and top speed RPM? I would suspect you may be underrevving a bit, but I could be incorrect. Every boat is different...
 

GalaxieStingray

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

Thanks for the replies! Yes, I am wrong, it must be a 200 because it is a 20'. It?s a 99, with a 5.0 mercruiser. The boat will basically have the front end totally up in the air if I don?t have the trim all the way down.

What is happening is it is taking minutes (not seconds) to come out of the water. Then it finally does, is so bumpy you almost can?t ride and then at about 50 mph, it becomes as smooth as glass! WOT RPM is about 4100-4200 at top speed.

I am guessing I should start with a prop. Because there is NO WAY this thing should take a few minutes of WOT to come out of the water. Also, it is just about straight up!

Does this all make sense?
 

craze1cars

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

Yes, everything you said makes total sense and confirms my guess that the 23 pitch you're running is completely wrong. Ironically, you and I happen to have nearly identical boats....mine is a 1999 200LX with 5.0...but mine is a Volvo (meaningless...both are Vortec Chevy 305 small blocks and have similar gear ratios)...and I have converted to a 4 bbl carb and some other light mods that have upped my HP output by probably 30 hp over stock.

And despite my having a bit more HP than yours, mine could NEVER push a 23 pitch prop. And your 4100-4200 answer and dog-outta-the-hole response confirms that yours cannot either. You are not even getting near the peak HP output of your motor if you're spinning it that slowly.

Your motor is supposed to be in the 4,400 to 4,800 range. Closer to 4,800 is better IMO because you want strong holeshot. At 4,100/4,200 I fully expect you'd be extremely doggy out of the hole.

You are way overpropped with that 23 pitch. Not sure why it's on that boat as it has never belonged there. I'd suggest you drop down to a 19 or 20 pitch prop. 4 blade might help even a little bit more with your porpoising and will definitely help with your holeshot.

If you want to stay aluminum, try the Solas Amita 4 blade 19 pitch. Probably can be found in the $150 range. If you're looking to spend more on stainless, Solas also makes a prop called the HR Titan, $300+. I'm told Stilletto makes a nice Stainless 4 blade in a 20 pitch, I've never tried it. But I believe any of these will get you in your proper RPM range. I'll steer you toward the Solas only because that's what I run, and I have same boat as you, and I know for a fact it works. Mine has been repitched to a 20 by a local prop shop, but that was to accomodate my extra HP from minor engine mods. I really believe a 19 pitch 4 blade Solas (Alum or Stainless) would work absolutely perfect on yours.

And with any of above, I think you'll be STUNNED at the holeshot you gain, and I bet your top speed stays about the same as it is now...might even improve a bit. Porpoising might improve a bit as well, but you'll still need to keep it trimmed all the way down at most slower speeds. FWIW mine gets on plane in about 2 seconds, and will go zero to thirty in less than 4 seconds easily. And my top speed about 58 mph GPS. I assure you that none of this is an exaggeration...wish I could take you for a ride but I'm in Indiana...

Most of that excellent performance was accomplished by propping correctly, and not-so-much by my 4bbl carb/engine mods. You'll probably be closer to 55 mph GPS with your factory engine setup on most of those props, and it'll rip outta the hole like you can't imagine.

Reprop correctly first, then see how your porpoising is, before you decide you need to mess with Smart Tabs or Trim tabs. You will still need to leave your trim all the way down for most speeds between zero and 35-ish....that's the nature of these Stingrays and is not considered abnormal. You'll only start trimming out a bit at 35-ish and faster.
 

GalaxieStingray

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

craze1cars.... That the EXACT reply I was looking for! This helps a ton. Yes, I eventually want to mess with the top end of this motor once I figure out what the heck is going on with boat! Also, better finish up the build I have going on in the garage which is NOT a small block Chev :)
 

GalaxieStingray

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

Do you have any tips where and how I go about buying a new prop? Do I just pop into marina?
 

Tail_Gunner

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Re: Stingray 20' Prop Issue

Are you saying your turning a 23p prop at 4200 rpm.... Is it ss or alum 3 blade or 4...I would not buy a 4 blade for that boat it will only make the porpoise more than it already is
 
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