Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixes?

[Bubbasboat]

After review, I realized I misstated the direction of turn. The photo is showing the motor in a full starboard turn, at least as full as it will turn, not a full port turn as previously stated


I just put a 1977 70 hp Evinrude on my 73/74 Glasspar V165 hull. When I turn wheel to port, the end of the steering arm and steering rod connection point hit the port side of engine well. Is there an adjustment in the steering that will resolve this? My previous motor did the same thing. It was an Evinrude as well. Same steering system as it was new 2 years ago. See photo.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Did both motors use the same arm? Maybe there is a shorter one so the cable can be moved more to stbd in the tilt tube? Tossing thoughts out.

 

[17rogue70]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

I just put a 1977 70 hp Evinrude on my 73/74 Glasspar V165 hull. When I turn wheel to port, the end of the steering arm and steering rod connection point hit the port side of engine well. Is there an adjustment in the steering that will resolve this? My previous motor did the same thing. It was an Evinrude as well. Same steering system as it was new 2 years ago. See photo.

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it looks like the steering cable might not be centered before attaching to the steering rod. take the cable loose , turn wheel one way or the other to center and re attach. it looks as though the engine is center but the steering isn't. hope this helps

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

After review, I realized I misstated the direction of turn. The photo is showing the motor in a full starboard turn, at least as full as it will turn, not a full port turn as previously stated.

I just put a 1977 70 hp Evinrude on my 73/74 Glasspar V165 hull. When I turn wheel to port, the end of the steering arm and steering rod connection point hit the port side of engine well. Is there an adjustment in the steering that will resolve this? My previous motor did the same thing. It was an Evinrude as well. Same steering system as it was new 2 years ago. See photo.

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[GA_Boater]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Same difference. Try 17's centering first.

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

I corrected my post as I made a silly mistake and misstated the direction of turn. Photo is showing a full starboard turn, not port as previously stated. Sorry for the error! I will do as you suggest. Thanks

it looks like the steering cable might not be centered before attaching to the steering rod. take the cable loose , turn wheel one way or the other to center and re attach. it looks as though the engine is center but the steering isn't. hope this helps

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

I'll do that, thanks.

Same difference. Try 17's centering first.

 

[gm280]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Two thing to measure to see if it will work either direction. Manually turn the engine to port and then measure the length to full starboard. Write that length down. Then do the exact same with the steering cable. If the steering cable doesn't have the same length as the OB, then all you can do is center them both in their mid ranges and install that way. Do the same even if the OB has a longer range as well. One way the OB will be the limiting factor and the other will be the steering limiting factor. But either way is the best you can expect from your setup...

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Are you saying get the best balance I can get on the motor and cable combination, then live with the limitations of the engine well itself?

Two thing to measure to see if it will work either direction. Manually turn the engine to port and then measure the length to full starboard. Write that length down. Then do the exact same with the steering cable. If the steering cable doesn't have the same length as the OB, then all you can do is center them both in their mid ranges and install that way. Do the same even if the OB has a longer range as well. One way the OB will be the limiting factor and the other will be the steering limiting factor. But either way is the best you can expect from your setup...

 

[TD_Maker]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

You are definitely limited by the motor well with a push-pull cable system. You can always go to a retro-fitted hydraulic steering system. I do have a question though. Are you sure you have the correct steering arm installed?

 

[Willyclay]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

One alternative is to use a "splashwell mounting kit" instead of routing your cable through the motor's tilt tube. See link below. Good luck!

Corrosion Resistant Splashwell Mounting Kit - 90 - SeaStar - SeaStar Solutions SA27254P

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

How very interesting! I have the steering arm that came with the motor. How would I know?

You are definitely limited by the motor well with a push-pull cable system. You can always go to a retro-fitted hydraulic steering system. I do have a question though. Are you sure you have the correct steering arm installed?

 

[TD_Maker]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

One alternative is to use a "splashwell mounting kit" instead of routing your cable through the motor's tilt tube. See link below. Good luck!

Corrosion Resistant Splashwell Mounting Kit - 90 - SeaStar - SeaStar Solutions SA27254P

Nice job Willyclay the splashwell mounting kit would seem to work. That is old school stuff, but then again, the motor is old school.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Thanks, "old school" is what us geezers do best. BTDT with installing push/pull cable steering in a 1970 Glastron V153. Am I the only one who thinks something is missing from the tilt tube in the OP's picture? I do not see any nut and/or wiper nut. How can that be?

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Thanks, "old school" is what us geezers do best. BTDT with installing push/pull cable steering in a 1970 Glastron V153. Am I the only one who thinks something is missing from the tilt tube in the OP's picture? I do not see any nut and/or wiper nut. How can that be?

On the earlier Johnrudes, first generation with the tilt tube built in, the port-side nut was recessed in the mounting bracket.

How long is the steering rod that connects the cable to the motor? Doesn't look 100% kosher as there appears to be an extra bend in it.

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

The steering rod is 12" long. I looked at the steering rod again and there is a bend in it, but there is no evidence of it having been deliberately altered. Not sure what the purpose of a bend would be. It does not seem to cause any issue. I looked at the steering rod on the 74 115 hp Evinrude I removed and there is no bend in it and it is also 12". Mounts appear different, I'm guessing they are not compatible. Yes, the nut is recessed on the port side of tilt tube as you said.

On the earlier Johnrudes, first generation with the tilt tube built in, the port-side nut was recessed in the mounting bracket.

How long is the steering rod that connects the cable to the motor? Doesn't look 100% kosher as there appears to be an extra bend in it.

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

Just as chinewalker said, it's recessed on the port side.

Thanks, "old school" is what us geezers do best. BTDT with installing push/pull cable steering in a 1970 Glastron V153. Am I the only one who thinks something is missing from the tilt tube in the OP's picture? I do not see any nut and/or wiper nut. How can that be?

 

[Willyclay]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

On the earlier Johnrudes, first generation with the tilt tube built in, the port-side nut was recessed in the mounting bracket.

Thanks Chinewalker, great info. I looked at the parts diagram before I posted that but the recess was not apparent. Still learning after all these years!

 

[boobie]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

If there's a # on that steering rod, post it.

 

[Bubbasboat]

Re: Steering rod and steering arm connection hits port side of engine well. Any Fixe

I removed and cleaned steering rod with solvent and found only one marking on the rod. "T" . I am posting a couple photo's of steering rod. The rod is 12"

Now that the rod is removed and cleaned, it does appear there are marks where the bends are. Why would someone do this??

If there's a # on that steering rod, post it.