starting suzuki 140 (choke)

[olivier]

hi,<br />new (lol) 2-nd hand boat... after a season i have remarkable problems starting the engine.<br />new plugs,<br />new battery<br />changed the fuel<br />and after having it started with "starterpilot" in the air-filter for a few secs it was down again... batterry seems to give up to after a few tries..<br />what am i doing wrong?????<br />thanks<br /><br />olivier, the king of "pirate in engines..."

 

[jim dozier]

Re: starting suzuki 140 (choke)

Olivier, you should read a post about a similar problem with another Suzuki. It was titled:<br />suzuki 88 dt55 on April 6, 2003 by duckdog3.<br />Check to see if your new plugs are actually sparking.<br />Is the fuel bulb pumped up tight?<br />Are the choke butterflies working and closed tight when you actuate the choke?<br />Try squirting some pre-mix in the carb throats and see if it fires (?what is "starter pilot", don't use starting fluid (ether) it washes the oil off the cylinders use pre-mix instead).<br />Make sure your battery is adequately charged to turn over the engine fast enought to fire the cylinders.<br />When was the last time the motor ran (right).

 

[olivier]

Re: starting suzuki 140 (choke)

hi JIM<br />first: thanks for posting back this quickly!<br />and second: sorry for my bad english.<br />i'll try to respond to your questions:<br /><br />1. no the plugs didn't spark, i disconnected them and put them one by one on engine (metal part to see if they spark if you see what i mean)<br /><br />2.pumped fuel quiet tight i guess yes...<br /><br />3.Starter pilot is like i think you call pre-mix (???) or is is kind of ether??? its a product in spray to put in air filter....<br /><br />battery was new last year... and suffered a lot now trying to start engine last week... recharched it... but i think it's almost dead now... So there is also a problem... it's losing all it's power??? The engine started for a few seconds (two or three times, but now even the starter gives up and it will be hell to find an adequate starter for that old model (1981)<br />brought starter to repair it but they told me it's dead...<br />i'm almost HOPELESS !... and summer is cumming up!<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />olivier<br /><br />mailgraphic@pandora.be

 

[jim dozier]

Re: starting suzuki 140 (choke)

I believe if the battery is low and the cranking rpm's are slow you won't energize the ignition system, so you need to solve the battery-starter problem first. Make sure the plug you're testing is grounded properly on the engine bare metal (not paint).<br /><br />If the starter fluids is in a spray can don't use it (ether is for 4-strokes). Mix up some gas and oil (pre-mix) is a squirt bottle and spray it in the carbs.<br /><br />It sounds like you have encountered the dreaded post-winter low battery-bad spark, gummy-sticky carburetor, old bad fuel, spring boaters blues. You need to whittle the problems down to a specific one. Keep us posted.<br /><br />P.S. Anything can be fixed if you throw enought money at it.

 

[olivier]

Re: starting suzuki 140 (choke)

"It sounds like you have encountered the dreaded post-winter low battery-bad spark, gummy-sticky carburetor, old bad fuel, spring boaters blues. You need to whittle the problems down to a specific one. Keep us posted."<br /><br />yes, last summer was last time the engine ran.<br />had tough winter here and floadings (boat flood away to other neighbourhood!)... and no trailer anymore to bring onland.<br />now with nice summer cumming trying to start again... keeping your advice in mind and i'll try saturday again (with better battery)<br />anyway i tried with the battery of my car and did'n luck either....