Starter Wiring, 4.3L Mercruiser

merc93

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Replaced starter on my 4.3 Mercruiser, new starter 3 terminals vice 4 on the old starter, any suggestions on wiring 3 terminals vice 4?
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,...... Welcome Aboard,..... Ya got the wrong starter,.....
 

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4th terminal is for running prime power to the fuel pump during cranking. Without it you will have trouble starting your motor.

As Bondo said, wrong starter.
 

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Why not wire the fuel pump starting circuit off the yellow/red slave solenoid output lead?
 

achris

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Why not wire the fuel pump starting circuit off the yellow/red slave solenoid output lead?
Unless you use a relay, when the oil pressure comes up and applies power to that same yellow/red wire, it'll hold the starter on, permanently! :eek:

Chris.....
 

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Unless you use a relay, when the oil pressure comes up and applies power to that same yellow/red wire, it'll hold the starter on, permanently! :eek:

Chris.....
Ah well, I have a relay in my setup, so would work fine. Unless people are specific on what they're working on, every engine is mine šŸ˜
 

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Now I'm just guessing here but with the 3 terminal vs 4 terminal solenoids...
you need a 4 terminal if you have a points ignition, and/or electric fuel pump
you can use a 3 terminal if you have electronic ignition and a mechanical fuel pump....
S terminal = start, yellow/red wire from ignition switch
R terminal = resistor bypass (purple wire with points ignition, to coil) it enables the coil to get full (non-resisted) voltage during cranking, needed with points ignition but not with electronic as far as I know. Can also be used to power your electric pump till oil pressure builds to close the oil pressure safety switch.
Correct?
On my '88 I still have the points ignition so I had to get a 4 terminal solenoid style starter.
 

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achris

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Now I'm just guessing here but with the 3 terminal vs 4 terminal solenoids...
you need a 4 terminal if you have a points ignition
Merc never put points on the 4.3. It will be Thunderbolt.
On my '88 I still have the points ignition so I had to get a 4 terminal solenoid style starter.
That's because you're still running OMC hardware...

OP, are you sure you have a MARINE starter?

Chris.
 

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But since Merc uses the oil pressure switch as a safety shut off for the electric fuel pump they would still use the 4 terminal solenoid (terminal R) to power the pump till oil pressure builds...
 

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Merc never put points on the 4.3. It will be Thunderbolt.
I thought that was the case, but manual #7 has a section on a prestolite points system?

Edit: NVM, that's for the 3.8l v6, which I've never seen in the wild
 

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I believe the 3.8 liter was the predecessor to the 4.3
GM had a number of these 90* V6s years ago....
They were all cut down 90* V8s, starting with Buick's 3.8 from the mid 60s which was used for a few years....then sold the tooling to AMC....who used it in Jeeps...then GM bought it back during the gas crisis (1973/1974) and it was used in Buicks, Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs...Chevrolet meanwhile carried on with the 4.2 liter straight 6 which was actually a better engine in some ways, being in perfect primary and secondary balance compared to the shaky V6s until they were given the split journal crankshaft and later the balance shaft.
Chevrolet got in the act with a 229 cu in V6, which became the 3.8. Now I don't know for sure but the 3.8 might have been a cut down 5.0 V8 just as the 4.3 was a cut down 5.7. The bore and stroke of the 3.8 and the 5.0 are nearly identical, like the 5.7 and 4.3 are.
The easy way to tell a Buick V6 from the Chevrolet V6 was that the distributor was in the front, just like a Buick V8 whereas the Chevrolets all had them in the rear.
 

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I thought that was the case, but manual #7 has a section on a prestolite points system?

Edit: NVM, that's for the 3.8l v6, which I've never seen in the wild
The 229 (3.8L V6) was only used by Merc for a coupe of years, 1983-1984.
 
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