Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

S McIntyre

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Hi,<br /><br />I have a 2003 Honda 75 tiller with 50hrs. It starts fine but, if I twist the throtle quickly it bogs and dies. If I go slowly it works just fine. I thought maybe carb issues? It seems odd since the low hours. Any ideas.<br /><br />Thanks
 

radsrh

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

When did this start to happen? How long do you let it warm up? Will it get better the longer it runs? I have a 90 and I noticed right before I put it away for the winter it would take longer for it to warm up because the water temp was getting lower. If I would try to get in to it to soon it would bog down, but if I would let it run to warm up good it was back to it's good old self and snap my neck back ;)
 

S McIntyre

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

It started in the middle of summer and letting it warm up seems to have no effect. In fact, the biggest problem is when I am loading it on the trailer. I try to drive it on and that's when it becomes really noticable because it just stalls. Even after a long run back to the launch. I know just enough about carburetors to be dangerous....I thought maybe the floats are sticky?
 

MajBach

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

Haven't the time to post the links, but look at some of my posts in this forum. I have had the same problem with my 90. I have found this problem is very noticeable on one particular prop (17" Merc prop) and partially noticebale on a 19 honda prop. It is not noticeable whatsoever on finer pitch props. I brought this problem to my dealer a couple of years ago when it happened occasionally on my 19" prop. He made a slight adjustment to something (not the idle) and the problem went away. It became a persistant problem immediately after a recent tune up (valves and carb sync on top of regualr servicing). However, I also switched props to the 17" Merc. I wondered if it had something to do with the restrictive adapter sleeve that is required for the merc prop on my Honda. <br />I haven't been to the mechanic since the problem reoccurred as I do not think it's serious and it's late in the year. I too agree it has nothing to do with engine temp. <br />From my years flying piston driven planes, I recall that engines would frequently bog down and die when firewalled from idle. This was most noticeable on variable pitch props when the pitch was set high or from regular props when the plane was heavily loaded. I suspect that the engine gulps to much air before the carb can deliver enough gas to make a combustable mixture. In other words, the engine cannot come up to speed fast enough (becasue of the load placed on it) in order to run properly on the mixture and timing it is currently at. This theory is backed up by the observation that the problem is more frequent (or at least more apt to happen) in colder air (like now - in the fall) when the air is denser. I'm sure it's a minor carb adjustment or similiar as, like I have stated, my mechanic knew right away what the problem was and made the appropriate adjustments.
 

S McIntyre

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

Thanks to both of you for the replies. The prop might be an issue. I recently changed from the 17 pitch that came from the dealer to an adjustable Pro-Pulse. I have been experimenting with the differnt pitches and the last ones I've tried are definitely too steep, matbe that's the problem. The prop is a plastic 4-blade set at the 19 pitch setting. At WOT I just barely hit 5000 rpm. I'll try a lower setting next season.<br /><br />Thanks Again
 

donnytran85

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

Sorry to bring this from the dead. I'm having the same problem. Which prop would be the best one that i should try. I have a Bf75a. No one seem like they can help me. Please give me an advice...
 

Nick on the Bad Habit

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

I have experienced the same problem with my 75hp motor. I found that two things can have an effect on stumbling at throttle up, one is if the idle fuel mixture is set on the lean side, or if the t-stat is not closing an the motor is not warmed up fully, even after a long run on the water. Checking the t-stat involves removal (two small bolts) and testing in hot water on the stove.
Nick
 

gary - k7gld

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

It seems well established that coolant temp is NOT the problem - and the stalling with the steeper pitch prop (loading the engine) is most likely just the SYMPTOM of the actual problem - not the specific cause.

The actual problem seems far more likely the fuel starvation already suggested - and that can be anything from misadjustment of the carb(s), to contaminated fuel, or restrictions in fuel flow anywhere from the tank clear to the engine intake.

In our part of the country, the mandatory inclusion of ethanol into our fuel is creating many similar issues - from loss or reduction in power, to loosening of various deposits in tanks and lines that flow downstream and do their dirty work. :mad:
 

donnytran85

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

I checked my spark plug after i stall at the beach. The third spark plug seems like as if it wasnt getting any fuel. I also drain out the fuel from the float bowl to see if i was getting any fuel. It did have fuel in it, all 4.

What i notice was that when i loosen the drain plug all the way out, i saw a gunk of RUST on the tip of the screw. Only the third one have it. The rest was fine.

My question, Should i take the third carb out and clean it? what should i do?

Thank you for replying. Seems like u know whats going on
 

hondon

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Re: Stalling problems on a 75hp HOnda

Take a more serious fuel sample.Remove the plastic filter near the choke linkage and dump the contents into a fuel safe container.Chances are you will not like what you see.If you have not been useing an inline water separator,now is the time to add one.You may well have carb work in your future but that entirire intake mani needs to come off to accomplish that task and sometimes you can get by with just purgeing the fuel system.5000 is lugging this engine and I'dd look carefully at those plugs.Compression numbers would be nice.
 
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