Squirrelly jon boat!

ooOoo

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New to boating...

About 3 years ago bought my first boat. It’s a 12’ Grumman flat bottom jon boat 36” wide at the bottom. It has an old 110 Mercury 9.8 on it but I think it’s too long, the cavitation plate is about 5” under the hull.

I finally had it out on the water a few weeks ago and it would keep dying and would run rough. The handling seemed ok but I was on a 19,000 acre lake on a windy day and the waves were higher than the sides of the boat, so who knows since I never really could top it out.

A friend suggested cleaning the carb and replacing the fuel pump (diaphragms). I did and it runs wonderfully now! I took it out today and the lake was unusually very calm so I was able to top it out and it went right at 20 mph as measured by GPS. Drove 5.4 miles with no issues at all.

However, this boat is very squirrelly at that speed! The engine had a long handle on it but I swapped on a little stubby handle from a parts motor. At high speed the motor is very hard to control and is very sensitive to input using the stubby handle. It’s like the boat starts steering itself even if the handle doesn’t move.

What is causing the boat to be ultra sensitive at high speed?

The reduced leverage of the stubby handle?

The motor in the water 5” farther than it should be?

Thats just how it is, little boats are squirrelly at that speed?

Something else?
 

Scott Danforth

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could be that normally there are 6hp and maybe a 7.5 on them. I think they are rated for only 9hp .

add a long shaft motor and those two things arent helping.
 

cptbill

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I don't think a 12' john boat w a flat bottom is ever going not squirrelly at that speed
 

ooOoo

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Thanks for the info guys! I put the longer handle back on and it helped quite a bit, but I can tell it’s still a bit squirrelly.
 

Scott Danforth

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try installing a motor that has equal to or less than the max capacity
 

Texasmark

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You have a 20" engine on a 15" transom. You can get some aluminum plate and some wood and extend the transom 5". Adding an additional brace at the top center of your addition will help.

I had a10' Lowe Lake John for many years with a little Merc 7.5. Would have put a 9.8 on it if I had one. It ran out really fast as it was, but human nature being what it is,,,,,,one is always seeking more. Very stable boat. Differed from regular johns as it was wider and deeper....aka the "Lake" adjective. The bottom of most johns is ribbed....Vees stamped in the hull running fore and aft....for strength. They also help the boat to track true and are very stable with the addition of the flat bottom and hard Chines....where the bottom meets the side.

Get your transom raised and then think about squirrelly performance....if you still have it! Wink!
 

gm280

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The engine sticking down 5 extra inches isn't helping. The cavitation plate should be even with the bottom of the haul. Then try and see how that works. That 5 extra inches sticking down defeats slow movement in shallower waters... JMHO
 
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