Spinning reel question

sky7

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Morning guys. I'm sorry if this has been covered before.

Fairly often, when casting a spinning reel, a loop of line will come off the drum, about 3-6 inches long, and get tangled around the spinning part (the rewinder thingy if I may). I try to pull line off of the drum to get down to the loop but it always seems to be from way down and requires a ton of "pull off and rewind".

Does this happen to anybody else, or am I the only bonehead as usual? Any tips? Thanks guys
 

sky7

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Re: Spinning reel question

Never mind, I got it. While pulling out a couple thousand yards of line to clear the tangle, I noticed that my drag was way too loose and the spool had a little inertia to it. It was spinning out a little during the cast and would continue to unwind a little when the lure hit the water, making a little loop that would tangle when reeling in.

Thanks for tolerating the new guy.
 

Javelin JD

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Re: Spinning reel question

no worries, the things we learn when we dissect our problems. Now if you can figure a way for me to stop getting a backlash in my baitcasters, I'd really be impressed
 

sky7

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Re: Spinning reel question

A little baby powder on 'em every morning should help
 

Teamster

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Re: Spinning reel question

no worries, the things we learn when we dissect our problems. Now if you can figure a way for me to stop getting a backlash in my baitcasters, I'd really be impressed

Keep practicing,...

How heavy of line are you using??

I like a heavier test/larger line diameter line on a baitcaster,...
 

Tyme2fish

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Re: Spinning reel question

I don't know how to prevent "the loop" but here's how how to easily fix one that you have.

1. Do not flip the bail open. Keep the bail closed.
2. Loosen the drag and then pull the line off the bail till until the loop is free.
3. Tighten your drag back up and reel in all the line you pulled out.
 

dingbat

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Re: Spinning reel question

I hate spinning reels for just that reason.
Manually closing the bail after each cast will eliminate the problem 80% of the time. The only sure fire to eliminate the problem completely is to use a conventional ;). Bait casters have their own set of problems.
 

fishrdan

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Re: Spinning reel question

^^^ Agree, close the bail manually before reeling. Also, after casting, lift the rod to put a slight bit of tension on the line and straighten the line out, then begin reeling. The loops don't form as bad if the line isn't slack and loose. I taught my kids to do both of these things,,, and I don't have to straighten out their reels nearly as often now....

Myself, if using a self closing spinner, after casting I lift the rod while cranking the handle. The bail slams shut over taught line.
 

sky7

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Re: Spinning reel question

Thanks for all the help guys. Thanks for taking the high road when some of us have the occasional dumb question. Funny how I can rebuild transmissions but a spinning reel gets the best of me.
 

Wind dog

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Re: Spinning reel question

After closing the bail manually reach down and grap your line then draw your line tight on the spool before starting to retreive. ( I guess this does the same thing as lifting your rod tip.Like the other posters said.)
 

sky7

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Re: Spinning reel question

Thanks wind dog, and the others. I'll really watch my technique next time out to see when the birds nest forms. I guess I'd better go log a couple hrs fishing, purely for research purposes of course.
 

Javelin JD

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Re: Spinning reel question

Generally I used 10-12 lb flurocarbon in all my reels. I'm at the point where I don't get the birds nest every time, but atleast once per outing, however I also don't/can't cast as far as I'd like either. Any thoughts
 

TD_Maker

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Re: Spinning reel question

Here is a trick my dad taught me. If you are using monofilament, wet the spool of line with water before you go fishing. In fact, I often wrap a wet paper towell around the spool secured with a rubber band. The water softens the mono and it will cast much easier and be much less prone to tangle and/or loop. Works with bait casters too.
 

roscoe

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Re: Spinning reel question

Every line will behave a little differently from the next.
Some are limp and fine, like Stren magna thin in 6#, some are thin but stiff like Fireline 10#, Flouro, PowerPro, Trilene, 12#, 25#, etc, all are different.

Smaller reels work much better with lighter test lines.

You will need to adjust how you handle the rod n reel depending on the line.
 

leesumm

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Re: Spinning reel question

Some may disagree on this but I found some "braided line" at walmart. I can't remember the brand name but it was a popular name. It described the test as 50 lb and diameter equal to 8 lbs mono line. I have always used mono and liked it. Now I am a firm believer in braided line. High break strength and it don't "loop" as mono does even after being on the reel for an extended period. Plus now with the added strength my hooks bend rather than breaking line when I get a snag. And, the fish don't seem to mind that I switched over either.
 
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