spiderwire cut guides???

[cwilt]

Has anyone ever had a problem with spiderwire cutting line guides? i am changeing rods from an allstar which had ceramic guides to a berkly bionix which has metal guides. had no problem on the allstar. the rod is being retired...

 

[Ron G]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

I was told that,but i havent had that problem on any of mine.i think the first braided line might have been known to wear some grooves in the guides.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

Even if they are "Metal", if its a newer rod, they probably have some type of hardened insert in them.<br /><br />I have all but given up on braids, I like the sensitivity, but dont like the way they fish for the most part. Too limp, Line tends to float some and lures sink too slowly. The only thing I use it for now is on a fippin stick and spinnerbait rod. I can feel every bump of the blade. If the blade stops, well, you know, "SET THE HOOK!

 

[PAkev]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

Originally posted by cwilt:<br /> Has anyone ever had a problem with spiderwire cutting line guides? i am changeing rods from an allstar which had ceramic guides to a berkly bionix which has metal guides. had no problem on the allstar. the rod is being retired...

This problem is most evident in trolling applications where greater pressure of the line is constantly against the guides.

 

[skeeterboy]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

I dont use braid anymore due to busting guides off with the leader knot. I always used to put a floro leader on the end for a shock absorb and vision reducer, but after knocking guides off of some loomis rods i wont use braid again just straight floro or mono lines.

 

[cwilt]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

pac i use the spider wire for pitching in heavy cover when a nice size fish (2lbs to 7 lbs)takes the bait i just yank'em out if your not quick enough he can get you a tied up. i use 50# line with the drag as tight as it goes. probably more pressure than trolling!!

 

[walleyehed]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

i use 50# line with the drag as tight as it goes. probably more pressure than trolling!!

More pressure for a very short period of time...we may troll for 10-16hrs a day chasing wallys...<br />I've used Berkely fireline since it came out, and I'm fishing about every weekend from march to november and I've never had it eat a guide, never had it pop one off either and I use flor. carbon leaders too on trolling rods.<br />I tried it on baitcasters...it doesn't work when fishing timber...it likes to hang in the wood, mono only there. I have found the best application for braids for me to be on jigging rods for lite-bite walleye...you'll have fish on mono that are gone before you know they were there.<br />Now, with all of this said, Fireline IS NOT a braid, it's a Thermal filament line (the fusion of micro dyneema fibers)that does not have the cross-hatch pattern of lines such as Spiderwire-a TRUE braid, which I can see absorbing water in use, collecting dust while still wet, and being abrasive until the dust is agitated from the line...

 

[Silver/Fish]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

Thanks Kenny for the info. I was alittle worried there...We troll with Fireline for hours also-have not seen a problem yet.

 

[JAG59]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

I realize that technology has increased over the years, but I remeber seeing mono cut grooves into metal guides on a friend's spinning rod back in the '70s.

 

[KCLOST]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

Yea, that's why they went to glass/ceramic. Now we have Titanium, Nonolite Ceramic, Nickle Titanium, Titanium Carbide Plated Steel, Titanium Nitride Plated Steel, Alconite, Annodized, Annodized with an insert, Hardened Aluminum Oxide, Silicon Carbide, Silicon Nitride, Hardloy and several others to chose from...<br /><br /><br />I'm thinking I can make millions off of picking up my dogs dried up crap from the back yard, process it some how, make a ring out of it, give it a new name like Canineonite, and retire!!!

 

[walleyehed]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

well said KC...

 

[cwilt]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

somebody must be a metalurgistnite

 

[cwilt]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

anyway had no problems this weekend guides still look good. thanks for the posts

 

[brownies]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

I use stren rope and fireline on berkley bionix med heavy rods when fishing anything for "feel" that demands a "cross their eyes" hookset.<br /> (I fish that way most of the time also).<br />Never a rod guide problem, although, I think it's harder on the reels).<br /> With the wind ahold of the line (big bow) and a weightless plastic zooming across just under the surface....you can feel even a slight "tick"...even with slack in the line you can feel it.<br /><br />I use Mono for night fishing (flourescent) and for buzzbaits, spinner baits, crankbaits with a bionix medium action. I let the rod set the hook most times and between it and stretchy line, I very seldom loose one.<br /><br />I'd love to find some thread that glows under a blacklight though.

 

[brownies]

Re: spiderwire cut guides???

WOW, I'm now a happy dude. I saw some green colored Fireline in a catalog a few days ago and ordered it. Thinking the color might make the line easier to see.<br /> Feeling the slightest "tick" on this stuff is great, but, then you must start watching for the line to "run off".<br /> It arrived yesterday and was a bit "brighter" than I anticipated, so, last night I plugged in the black light and....sure nuff....It glows!<br /> Looks my night fishing this summer just got more fun for a diehard "thread" user. (even though this stuff isn't thread, It does act like thread).