Spawning Walleye?

Rockchalk

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According to netting reports the Walleye are just starting to spawn at a near by lake in Kansas. We gave it a go yesterday (3/22) in a stiff west blowing wind without any luck. I was wondering how long a midwest Walleye spawn lasts and what is the best method to catch them? I am new to targeting these critters. Thanks!
 

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Re: Spawning Walleye?

Im new too, but the info that I got about Stockton Lake is just use a plastic worm, (black) very slow. The guy told me that they dont hit, ya really dont feel a thing. It just seems that your line kind of stops, wait about 20 seconds and set the hook. 10-12# test, with the plastic rigged just like bass---->1/0 hook, with a slide sinker the slides and rests on the eye of the hook(or the worm if it's rigged). I was going to Stockton today, but what crappy weather, wind blowing like a hurricane, and Thndr Strms moving in later today.
 

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Jayhawker use #7 or #9 floating rapala in fire tiger on the face of the dam fish it slow and parallel to the dam. I picked up a few males Saturday night at Milford they were very milky. Walleye spawn when the water temp is between 45 - 50. The males will come in after the sun goes down and cruse the face of the dam looking for the females. I usually will catch the females when the water temp is closer to 50. This may last about 3 weeks. After the spawn the eyes are hard to catch for about 3-4 weeks then they will show up on the mud flats end of April. Drift live bait and you will catch them until end of June. <br /> http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/ Good luck and GO WILD CATS! :)
 

Rockchalk

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Thanks for the info Booner. Your all right even if you are a stater. :) I got my hands on an old Lund this winter and am trying to figure out this Walleye thing. Only have done it a few time up north but I sure like em. We were drifting minnows on jigs and Lindy rigs at Hillsdale with no luck at all... But the conditions were pretty lousy. Will try the Rapalas next time. I would love to know when you start getting into them on Milford. ;) Thanks again!
 

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Jayhawker Well you got the right boat to start with. Hilsdale is good wally water don't over look Clinton. Work the dam after dark you will see the males chasing the females in the shallows just like ruttin bucks. If the rain lets ups I'll be on the dam at Milford best Wally water in Kansas. I start St. Patty’s day give or take a day or two it depends on the weather and water temp. What I find is the males come in and cruse the dam they will take stick baits out of opportunity but when the females show up they are much more aggressive protecting the eggs. :)
 

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Thanks once again Boomer. Good info. Will give it all a try once this wind lets up...
 

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If the rain lets ups I'll be on the dam at Milford best Wally water in Kansas.
we started running nets on the 18th...Milford isn't on the list....it's "OK" for Walleye, but 4 other impoundments top it by far for density.<br />
but when the females show up they are much more aggressive protecting the eggs.
Walleye do not protect their eggs..they are scattered throughout the rocks and are left upon discharge.<br />Part of the "Milt" (Not MILK) the male produces draws the females into spawning areas and it takes atleast a 9 to 1 ratio of males to females to even have a spawn.<br />Walleye begin to spawn at 42 degs. "IF" the length of daytime is near the correct period.<br />The length of day triggers this movement just as it does for wild pheasant, quail, etc, to begin laying eggs.<br />One lure you may want to consider that will out-produce any minnow-type bait, is a 3" curly-tail on an 1/8 oz head on steep slope dams and a 1/16 oz on shallow slope dams. they're harder to keep out of the rocks but will produce more fish.<br />KDWP is considering a way to outlaw treble-hooks from March 15 thru April 1st on the face of the dam due to the fact more Walleye are being "Snagged" than actually caught.<br />It most likely will never go through the system, but they're looking hard at a way to stop the snagging without having to close-off the dams during the spawn as other States do, so please keep this in mind.
 

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Thanks for the additional info walleyehed. We saw Kansas Fish and Game (or the like) setting nets on Hillsdale damn last Sunday. Good to see all this work being done. From the sounds of what you are saying a treble-hook ban may not be a bad idea. Any color suggestions on the 3" curly tail? Now I have to ask... What are the four impoundments that top Milford? Is there a place where the general public can access such info? Keep up the good work and thanks again.
 

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It's all based on Fall net samples and there are a certain # of nets set for a cetain number of surface acres. Fall netting will usually consist of 15-35 Trap-nets (Not gill-nets), and placed in the same location year after year, scattered throughout the lake. The average is taken per-net, which indicates an increase or decrease.<br />Glen Elder, Kirwin, Cedar Bluff and Webster are all higher average fish per acre than milford.<br />Webster is quite low but fishable and large numbers of fish are being caught by rod and reel now although the KDWP report doesn't indicate what is really going on there in the last few days.<br />Net crews are KDWP department heads (district) leading aids and a few off-the-street fisherman.<br />Netting programs will continue until each district has run out of ripe females or meets quota on # of eggs needed.<br />On color for curly tails, a guy can't go wrong with white, yellow or chartruse during the day,(on windy days, the fish will run during the day), at night, I prefer a black body with a chartruse tail...the tail can be seen even on a dark night before it hits your tip-guide.<br />When fishing at night, remember this tip (most miss out because they quite too early) It takes 1-1/2 hrs for a Walleye's eyes to fully adjust to max potential AFTER it has become COMPLETELY dark. Very few fish will be caught before 10pm in this region...there are at times fish caught during this period, but then nothing is set in stone, but to maximize fish per casts, be on the dam at 9:30-10pm.<br />We've set nets at sun-down and run them at 4 hour intervals and have found the second setting (usually between 9-10pm) run at 1-2am is ALWAYS the heavy hitter. We run the third set at about 6-7am and have found it to be about half as effective as the 10-2 set.<br />We do a 4-day/night set at Cedar Bluff for biological reasons, not for eggs, and the 13th-17th we had 5 fish OVER the Ks State record, with 1 of those being almost 1-1/2lbs larger than the current record. We weigh, measure and release after pulling about 5 or 6 scales for growth rates. Great part is...when we get done with these lakes, I get to hit my favorite Nebraska waters where the spawn has just began, so I get to have some real fun too!!<br />p.s. Milford had an accidental stocking of Saugeye about 5 yrs. back and they found the growth rates so substantial, they have continued a small scale stocking program of Saugeye there, which in many ways is a bad sign due to the fact Saugeye thrive where Walleye have began to slow down in growth and reproduction, but this period is when you have the best chance of hooking that once in a life time trophy.<br />The floods of '93-'94 changed the bottom substrate due to massive inflow of sediment which changed the entire eco-system to some extent. Milford is still a great Walleye lake, it's just going through a 10yr. cycle.
 

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Holy cow walleyehed! Great information! I'll try all of this and soon. Really looking forward to learning to be a better walleye fisherman this year. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Keep up the good work and catch em up in Nebraska.
 

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Leaving for Kirwin later tonight-got my 3 days off, now I get 4 days/nights of cold sounds like...I'm thinking this will be my last 4 days for this year..I've got an engine to finish for a customer in the next 2 weeks and the stripers are hammering hard at Texoma, so south sounds good after some good wallys in the freezer.<br />Good luck!
 

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Rockchalk - just a little something to try in addition to Kenny's tactics ..<br /><br />..try using a Grubmaster or Slo-Poke jigs with the grub tails if you are casting and retrieving. They're designed to be cast instead of presented vertically as 'round head' jigs are and might increase your hook-ups and reduce your snags/break-offs. Its all a test but, a very productive one! The designs of the two I listed put the power to the hook point immediately and are less obstructive in terms of the hook-eyes. They also fall at a horizontal rate not vertically as the round heads do.. <br /><br />
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Good Luck Kenny! .. giv'em the beans!
 

Rockchalk

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Thanks all! Going to Cabelas tonight. Will look for the grub master there. This has been great guys. I'm very excited to give it all a try! Hope to post a catching report soon!
 

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Excellent advice, Barlow...I do use the slo-poke on shallower dams often as they seem to be tougher to keep out of.....most of the time the shallower drops will have smaller rip-rap as well.<br />I just talked with a buddy that fishes Wilson often, and last night he got 3 legal fish, so things are picking up as many more males are moving in....<br />Good luck to you, Rockchalk...give'm'ell!!!<br />Hey, I expect a report too...I'll let you guys know how the netting goes, and maybe a report between sets if possible....we're supposed to be sleeping between the sets, but sometimes a guy has to break the rules... :D
 

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Short night boys....only 21 fish all night at Kirwin...only 5 females and all were green yet..needless to say, we got sent home for 2 more days. Hope you all do better in your locations...should be a bit better farther east.<br />I guess the last few nights have been fair at Glen Elder with some ripe females, and sounds like some big'ins too..
 

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Interesting that you guys down south hit the walleye during the spawning season.Here in the north country ,we find it to be a real slow season because they are not interested in anything but spawning.A few weeks after the spawning they start feeding very intensively in order to regain their body weight.That is when most people up here go after them.In fact many counties around here used to have a closed season for walleye,but no longer do so because the fish just plain does not feed during this season.
 

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The FEMALES do not feed during the spawn, however, the males feed very aggresively....I've fished alot of nights while collecting eggs between sets, and the activity is much greater during the first half of the spawn, which can start and finish in 4-5 days if conditions are right...in this case, it will be good from pre-spawn, thru post-spawn for males. In some locations, it may take a month for walleye to complete the spawn. If the ratio of males to females is low, fishing won't be so good during the spawn.
 

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In fact many counties around here used to have a closed season for walleye,but no longer do so because the fish just plain does not feed during this season.<br />
That hasn't happened, here in the Southern Tier. A main walleye spawning stream is closed to all fishing, until the standard first Saturday opener in May. Weather and other activities prevented getting out before season closed on March 15th. :( And just to rub salt in the wounds, my son just developed some film of some of our falltime walleyes. Itching to get back out on the water.
 

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Ohio banned treble hooks from March 1 through April 30th in all the main walleye spawn tributaries. A few years ago they even reduced the width of the hook opening for jigs.<br />They also reduced the daily bag limit to 3 in order to try to improve the hatch. <br /><br />It's amazing how many scumbags there are out there. They busted a restraunt the other day for illegaly serving poached walleye.
 
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