Son's Mud Eye

John_S

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Joe caught this one, late fall, and had to drag it up the bank.
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<br /><br />But it wasn't big enough to beat dad's, from the prior year! :D <br />
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Ron G

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Nice fish,what are they?is that the same as a bowfin?
 

roscoe

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No sir Ron. Them there is walleyes, and darn nice ones.<br /><br />Best eatin freshwater fish in the world.
 

Reel Poor

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Nice walleyes John. Tell your son congratulations. :)
 

skeeterboy

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Nice lookin fish you guys caught there. I bet they tasted good!
 

John_S

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I bet they tasted good!<br />
We keep a few of the 15" to 21", for eating, and agree, they are the best tasting fresh water fish. These ole girls were allowed to grow bigger. ;)
 

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I sorta thought that is what they were,ive never had the oppurtunity to catch one wouldnt even know how,they say we have some here but not that many people fish for them.
 

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I'm originally from Britain (live in FL now) and back home that beastie is called a Zander or Pikeperch. Introduced into some watercourses in central England in 40's and 50's and just about wiped-out all of the other species living there. It's a bit of a Pit-bull with fins....
 

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I have seen Zander in a fishing mag. Related to a walleye, but typicaly grow bigger. Not sure if they taste as good. I would not charterize walleyes to have pit-bull instincts. They typically scare much easier than smallies.
 

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In my opinion, walleye are the sissiest of all fresh water fish. A blue gill will put up a better fight then an walleye. I think this is what you guys caught John_S and also what you guys have over in England are these but probably a saugeye.<br /><br />Life History Notes: <br />SAUGER <br /><br />
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<br /><br />COMMON NAMES: Sauger, Jack salmon <br /><br />SCIENTIFIC NAME: Sander canadense <br /><br />IDENTIFICATION: Sauger look very similar to walleye and saugeye. The body is cylindrical with dark blotches along the sides. They have sharp canine teeth and large cloudy eyes. They can be distinguished from walleye by the large dark spots on the spiny dorsal fin.<br /><br />RANGE AND HABITAT: The sauger is native to Ohio and can be found in the Ohio River, Lake Erie and its tributaries. They prefer large, turbid slow moving rivers, and large, cool shallow lakes.<br /><br />LIFE HISTORY: Sauger spawn in the spring when water temperatures reach the upper 40s. Females lay between 10,000 to 50,000 eggs. The eggs are adhesive and stick to vegetation, sticks, and stones until they hatch in 10 days or more. Sauger prefer to forage for aquatic insects, crayfish, and small fishes during periods of low light (dawn and dusk).<br /><br />ADULT SIZE: Most sauger range from 9 to 15 inches in length and are less than 1 pound. The state record fish weighs 7 pounds, 5 ounces and is 24.5 inches long.<br /><br />FISHING METHODS: Lead head jigs, minnows, or crankbaits fished near the bottom are often productive sauger bait. Tailwaters below dams on the Ohio River and major tributaries are the best areas. Late and early fall are the most productive times of the year.<br /><br />See Ohio River Report<br /> <br />© 2005 ODNR, Division of Wildlife<br /> <br />OR<br /><br />Life History Notes: SAUGEYE <br />COMMON NAME: Saugeye <br /><br />
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<br /><br />SCIENTIFIC NAME: Sander vitreus x Sander canadense <br /><br />IDENTIFICATION: Saugeye are a cross of the walleye and sauger. The dark bars on the dorsal fin are the best identifying characteristic for this fish. Sharp canine teeth, dark blotches on the sides, and a white tip on the lower tail also help identify the saugeye.<br /><br />RANGE AND HABITAT: Saugeye have been stocked into many impoundments in Ohio. They can also be found in streams and rivers below stocked impoundments. Saugeye are highly adaptable to most lake and river environments and are tolerant of turbid waters.<br /><br />LIFE HISTORY: Saugeye are created by crossing walleye eggs with sperm from a sauger. The result is a fast growing fish that has excellent survival abilities. This also makes it ideal for stocking into Ohio reservoirs and rivers; however, saugeye can create some problems. Generally, most hybrid species do not reproduce, but saugeye do occasionally reproduce with walleye and sauger. This can create genetic problems in the fishery.<br /><br />ADULT SIZE: Saugeye average 1 pound and range between 13 and 16 inches in length. The state record fish weighed 12.42 pounds.<br /><br />FISHING METHODS: Many saugeye are caught in tailwater areas downstream from the impoundments where they have been stocked. Crankbaits, lead headed jigs with hair, feathers, or plastic tails are good artificial lures. Live minnows and nightcrawlers are also productive. Winter is an excellent time to catch saugeye. See our chart on when to catch saugeye by season.
 

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I believe Zander is a unique species. See this link for some additional info: web page <br /><br /><br />
In my opinion, walleye are the sissiest of all fresh water fish. A blue gill will put up a better fight then an walleye.
pound for pound, sure... but blue gills don't grow to 10lbs. :D
 

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In my opinion, walleye are the sissiest of all fresh water fish. A blue gill will put up a better fight then an walleye.
LMAO :D , walleyes may be the most finicky fish, but not the most sissy.
 

gonefishie

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<br />LMAO , walleyes may be the most finicky fish, but not the most sissy.<br />
Finicky? I caught them all the time when I wasn't even fishing for them. How finicky can they be when most of the time all you have to do is drag(troll) a lure or bait behind your boat. I call them sissy because: spinning rod, light line, and barely any fight. Once hooked and up they go to the surface. I have never ever seen a walleye break a line and it's light line.
 

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A) Trolling for Walleyes isn't legal on many lakes in this state because they are class A Musky water.<br /><br />B) If your only expirience is trolling with lures I can see why your opinion is the way it is.......any fish is pretty fightless that way, they are being dragged in by the boat.<br /><br />C) If you have every tried drifting with jigs, then let me know what you think. Especially when the fish arent feeding aggressively an just nip and hang on everything.<br /><br />D) Have had many surface.....shake.....and break line.<br /><br /><br />Moral is if your dont fish more them on a regular basis and your only expirience is trolling then IMHO your opinion doesnt hold much water. Finicky is in reference to when they arent in their more aggressive state and it becomes tough to hook em. A walleye fisherman would know what I am saying. Don;t mean to be mean or anything.........i just think your statement is correct.<br /><br /><br />BTW John S those are some fine "eyes" ya got there
 
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