Small boat vs Lake Powell

martyscher

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We are interested in some shoreline camping on lake Powell this summer, using a 16ft boat and maybe towing a Jonboat.<br /><br />Any one have any information on this type of camping on this lake?<br /><br />thanks
 

crab bait

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

i shouldn't really post a reply cause i just spent a couple days there just passin' by... all i can say ,, it's B I G AN beautiful !! take a compass readin' & lots of drinkin' water .. unless you can purify the lake water... that lake is pontoon / houseboat central.. you'll love it ..
 

barks

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

One of my best trips at powell was the one your taking.I also had a 16ft. boat. The San Juan arm is the best arm of them all 50 mi. in one way .You get in about 25 mi. and people and boats disappear.Take plenty of gas. Make camp in the bay before the GREAT BEND around Neskahi Wash.Great fishing in that bay too!Need more info email me lates Buffalo '66
 

marty_scher

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

Thanks "66"<br /><br />That sounds like a trip we are interested in. I'll have some work to do to figure out fuel consumption on a 40HP Johnson 2 stroke.
 

martyscher

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

Buffalo "66"<br /><br />Someone informed me that Powell can be and usually is, way to rough for a 16 footer, especially crossing the open lake areas.<br /><br />How was it for you?<br /><br />Any comments and tips are welcome.
 

barks

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The Key is , leave early.When traveling on the main body.Be gased up and ready to go at sun up.Most times glassed out.You can have 60 mi. under the belt by the time most people are even up.Early morning at Powell is pretty awesome too! Just have a plan and you will have great time. Buffalo '66
 

rejordan1

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I shore camp and houseboat camp at Powell, but when it is just the desperados and me, we much prefer to shore camp, ‘cuz we are basically nuts and really get into the whole nature thing. There is nothin’ different here than hiking into the tundra at 13000+ ft.; leave only footprints, carry out all that you carry in, take nothing but photos out. I just love the evenings around the campfire smokin’ cigars, sippin' wine, and enjoying the amazing light show that is the Milky Way. <br /><br />Every now and then we meet a fine tarantula fellow who mossies into our area, who just adds to the merriment. I also really enjoy the ‘artful dishevelment’ that goes with three of four days of sparse grooming. :p <br /> <br />A shade canopy is a MUST. Anything in your coolers (and you) will melt in one or two days if you don’t have a bit of protection from the sun. We have really been impressed with the new Coleman line of Extreme coolers. We use dri-ice for all meat products, which will last us four or five days easy. Cubed ice for drinks, but we hit a marina daily to restock them. I have never had a problem with critters. Maybe they just know better. We gladly invite the lizards and kangaroo mice in for snacks, scorpions and snakes seem to keep their distance.<br /><br />If the ladies are going and are a 'bit frilly', rent a houseboat. This place is pretty primitive, and very hot, and you will need just a few of the amenities to keep them ‘civil’. The porta-potti rules here are strict, but understood. They actually had a problem there several years ago with water contamination from all of the human feces on the shoreline. So the rules are just and fair. There are several sites where they now have floating facilities, which if you have the ‘determination’ your stops can be scheduled. If you need ‘relief’ at 8:00 AM, prior to the cowboy coffee being done, you had better make provisions on your own. <br /> <br /><br />We are used to carrying all of our supplies on our backs, so we are pretty good at ‘running light’. We have artfully adapted the backpacking style to our boat camping. That said, we haul in primo filets, several bottles of good wine, box or two of Habanos, and enough grub to eat well for the duration. But we all own backpacking tents, ultra light canopies, cool micro stoves, and we use many of the Alpine Kitchen/Mountain House freeze dried add-ons for our meals. We still manage to jam the cuddy from tip to firewall with gear, which requires a bit of foresight and packing savvy to get it all in there without damage to the boat and occupants. <br /><br />I just love camping at this lake. I just don’t seem to have the energy anymore to walk up 14,000 foot trails, but I can still ‘stear my way’ into the wilderness in my 20' Chap and save my energy for slalom cuts in glassy water in the evenings. I am not ready to give up the ‘backcountry ambiance’ just yet, and the boat camping thing really works for me at Powell. Sorry this has gotten so windy, hope it helps with your trip. :D :D
 

ob1jeeper

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

The 16 footer will be adequate... BUT ONLY on two conditions...<br />ONE: As suggested earlier, do your "traveling", in the earliy hours. From daylight until 9:30-10am is usually "OK". After approx. 10-11am, the traffic picks up, and there are a couple of "narrows", in the main channel, (One of the "worst" is just NE of Antelope Island), and a few more narrows just NE of the Dangling Rope Marina. Any time after 11 am, ESPECIALLY in the main channel anywhere South and West of the Rainbow Bridge area, I would advise you to ONLY go out, lightly loaded, and NOT loaded to the hilt with a weeks worth of gear, as this is where the largest concentration of people are, and where the "chop" from larger boats and heavy traffic, can get a tad intense for a 16 ft boat.<br /><br />Condition #2: I would caution you that Summer storms can whip up pretty quickly on this lake, with VERY stomg winds, creating white-caps, and swells which can EASILY take a 16 footer to an early demise. Two years ago, I witnessed a 59ft V-bottom houseboat taking a HUGE amount of water over the bow, get swamped, and go down, during one of these storms. After many trips during the past dozen (plus) years on this lake, and having water over the bow for the 2nd time (the 2nd time ALMOST took it down, as the bilge pump could NOT keep up... The only thing that saved it, was I was close enough to a sandy shore, that I was able to beach it until the bilge caught up). I did NOT need anyone to tell me it was time to move up in size, as we go regularily. For this reason alone, I sold my 18.5 ft fish/ski runnabout, and replaced it with a 23 ft Mako, that has enough foam between the hulls, to keep it afloat, even should it swamp.<br /><br />IF a storm whips up, find your way into a Lee Canyon, preferably one with a cove and a sandy beach, and WAIT IT OUT !!!<br /><br />AND beach camping is THE ONLY way to see the lake's beauty properly. Hve done both... Houseboated it, and beach camped... And for my $0.02, beach camping is THE only way.<br /><br />As far as the comment earlier made regarding toilets. Because of the history with fecal contamination problems (e-coli bacteria levels,e specially in the summer can get WAY high), You are now required by law to have a self-contained toilet on your boat, when operating on Lake Powell. Not only is it a fineable offense to NOT have one, it is for our own good. I know I sure don't want to go swimming in water that has a bloom of e-coli in it, because someone is too lazy to carry a toilet. There are plenty of dump stations, where you can clean it out too. Walmart (and most camping outfitters) carry inexpensive camping toilets that are legal.<br /><br />Sorry for the longish post, but I LOVE this place... It is one of the few remaining PRISTINE areas, which we can go to fish, relax, water-ski in the early morning "glass-like" conditions, and just tour around to see natural wonders and sights that are NOT available ANYWHERE else.<br /><br />I'd be happy to help you with any more questions you might have... See you there !!<br /><br />Obiwan Jeeper
 

powellcrazy

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

Marty,<br /><br />Did you make it to powell last year?<br /><br />This lake is the worlds best camping!!! I have seen plenty of people with 16' boats on all parts of the lake.<br /><br />I started out with a 19' boat and desided that it was a little small for powell and ended upgrading to a 24' cuddy for shore camping! This place is my favorite vacation destination!
 

Rob Lung

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

I grew up shore camping a Powell in an 18'er. Back when the lake was still filling one would have to hook a left at the dam and head up lake via the narrows. I can still hear my mom screamin at Dad, with butt planted on the floor, about how this damn boat is too small. I also remember lots of jet boat bobbers (point of boat bobbing after swamping) in the narrows. 25 years of recreational boating in the west powell takes a close second to Tahoe on the when it gets mean it gets real mean scale. I think Mead is maybe tied with powell for second. There is no place I'd rather be anytime anywere. The San Jaun is great, but if you can haul enough gas try for the escalante arm... Do not go to Powell without seeing rainbow bridge or floating on a life jacket in a 3 foot wide canyon with 2 to 300 foot cliffs above and below. Be smart and carful and you'll have the time of your life, harder to quit than smoking.
 

marty_scher

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

I'm going to try again this spring. My 4th grade son is on spring break, starting Mar 24. Probably will launch at Bullfrog or Page.<br /><br />I realize nights are a little cold this time of year, but am contemplating if we can handle a couple of nights in the tent. We have tent camped at campgrounds, but are a newbies in the sticks.<br /><br />I want to "rough it" and try some beach camping, but am weary of creating an un-fun, or even dangerous situation, that may spoil our first LP outing.<br /><br />Even if it means motel camping, I would like to get this dad/son trip going and if it looks good, bring the rest of the family in the summer.<br /><br />Sound like a plan?
 

bluechips

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Re: Small boat vs Lake Powell

is this powell lake in B.C. canada?<br /><br />unless you have somwhere to dock 16' is kinda samll, get some wicked winds riping up the mountain vally somtimes, small craft warnings can and do ocour. I have cousin with a house boat on the lake.<br /><br /> south side of goat island is naturaly sheltered though. its where most people have their hose boats anchored. still no where to beach a boat, the moutain hill sides are too steep.<br /><br />---<br />lake is also damned so the water level can go up down fairly quick (few feet over a couple days)
 

bluechips

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nope just did a google search, its diferent lake powell, behind a diferent damn,and between diferent mountains.<br /><br />this ones abut 70km long, and maby 30km at its widest
 
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