Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

[fuzzeywiggler]

I blew my L/U last august and recently found a new (used) johnson (i figured they are the same)
put in a new water pump and got her out on the lake today. forward is now reverse ... neutral is neutral... and reverse is now forward, i would be fine with it but, (great anti-theft device) but I can only run 3000 rpm.

The afternoon was not a total wash, first Lunker largemouth of the season. But I am very frustrated.

Fuzzy

 

[boobie]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

Need some model #'s of both the motors. I think I know what's wrong but want to be sure.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

Not sure of the Doner but mine is
MN:E70TLCRD

Do you think it could be a counter-rotating L/U? Is it possibly to hook up the linkage backwards?

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

RH prop, off original lower unit

flywheel turns clockwise

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

You bought a pre 1976 unit.....

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

well shoot, really?
what got changed in those model years?

what do you think are my options

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

After going through shop.evinrude diagrams for johnson gearboxes, the oldest my gearbox can be is 1979 due to anode and set screw placement. They move locations around the water pickup...

I am down to three options;
>Buy a CR propeller ( it is cheaper than another lower unit)

>Somewhere in evinrude history an engineer turned the shift linkage around...

>my model number(unless i have read it wrong) shows counter-rotating. But I have a RH prop(normal) Have powerheads been made to run in both directions?(dosen't seem very plausible in a two stroke,piston dependent possibly?)

 

[boobie]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

The gear case won't work with a CR prop. You'll be running it in reverse and will take the gears out.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

don't think so.

Mabey I diden't explain this very well off the bat.

Everything I did to my doner gearbox is the same as the oldone. With one exception, I go the wrong way.

The only thing I am unclear on is the shift linkage on the side of the powerhead over the modelyears.
Am I right on thinking extending the shift shaft places the gear box in forward and retracting the shaft places the gearbox in reverse

 

[boobie]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

Now you're on the right trail. That's the answer. Two different linkages on the motors.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

sorry what is? shift shaft or what?

so what way gives me what gear? extend or retract?

 

[boobie]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

The linkage on the side of the motor. Not the shift shaft. Go back to shop.evinrude and check that.

 

[racerone]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

This is a fairly common occurance !!!----You have the wrong lower unit.--------For a couple of years they shifted to forward with a down motion of the shift rod instead of an up motion.----Help to get this sorted out may not be that far away from you.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

right on, its been boggling me all day. I'll see what I can do about spinning her around this week.

Any one try this before?

Certainly saved me some coin on the wrong prop!

Thanks boobie and raceone

 

[oldboat1]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

Not sure if this is useful (or relevant), but you might simply be able to make a switch at your remote control box to correct for the lower shift rod direction. If the shift cable currently has to be pulled for forward, for example, it now would have to be extended/pushed.
My reference is a Chrysler box (haven?t run into this with a J. or E. yet) ? shift control lever inside the box had to be rotated 180 degrees on its axis, if that makes sense, to push rather than pull the cable when the shift handle was pushed forward. The Chrysler single lever control box can work either way ? haven?t tried it with an OMC box.

 

[racerone]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

The replacement lower unit is from a 1974 or 1975 model and it is the wrong lower unit !!!!!-------You can not switch the direction in the control box.------That is done with linkages on the motor !!!!

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

There are TWO ways to fix this. First would be to acquire the correct lower unit. Second would be to acquire the shift linkages (arm under the carb and side linkages) from an early 70 or 75hp triple (1974-75) and swap them onto your motor. Trying to cobble it any other way is likely to result in a failure of some sort.

 

[oldboat1]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

been assuming the engine is set up for remote. If you switch the linkage at the motor (up is down, push is pull, etc.) the remote control unit worn't work right -- seems to me you would need a matching early '70s remote to match the direction of the jiggered linkage (although would need to insure that the rest of the remote functions worked OK with the '80s motor.)

(bought a period single lever remote unit to get my '78 Chrysler Sailor to shift correctly. The Sailor has a factory installed gearcase manufactured for a larger horsepower motor, with reversed shifting direction -- just thinking about the Evinrude by analogy. Doesn't look like you could easily switch operation of the J and E remotes, unlike the Chrysler unit.)

 

[racerone]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

All the " red plug controls " work the same way !!!!!---In other words a 1973 control will work on a 1994 motor that has a red plug and a 1994 control will work on a 1973 motor with a red plug.-The shifting change is with linkages on the side of the block on the motor.----Not sure why this is mis-understood.

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: Shifting is opposite...70hp evinrude with johnson L/U

Like I posted in #4 wrong unit. Only simple fix is to get later style and bolt on. If you go backward and try to use the linkages for the one you bought you will need to get a early style front crankcase half and pull motor and swap as linkage position is different...