Sept 1 GAS Boycott

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Not buying gas for 1 day will change nothing.Whats the difference if you buy it today or tomorrow? people need to use less to lower demand. anyhow, I filled up a couple of days ago so I won't be buying any today.
 

kenimpzoom

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp <br /><br />The above-quoted pieces advocating one-day gasoline boycotts are proof that some bad ideas never go away; they just keep getting recycled year after year. <br /><br />This year's e-mails (proposing a one-day "gas out" on 1 September 2005, or a three-day event later in the month) is a carbon copy of the e-mail that circulated in May 2004 (right down to the labeling of the putative boycott effort as "STICK IT UP THEIR BEHINDS DAY"), which was itself a recasting of similar messages that have been circulating since 1999. All of them are reminders that "protest" schemes that don't cost the participants any inconvenience, hardship, or money remain the most popular, despite their dubious effectiveness. A one-day "gas out" was proposed in 1999, and a three-day-long event was called for in 2000, but both drew little participation and had no effect on retail gasoline prices because they were based upon flawed premises. This year's version is no <br />different. <br /><br />First of all, everyone's "not purchasing a drop of gasoline for one day" will not cause oil companies to "choke on their stockpiles." Oil companies run their inventories on a weekly basis, and since the "gas out" scheme doesn't call on people to buy less gasoline but simply to shift their date of purchase by one day, oil company stockpiles won't be affected at all. <br /><br />Next, merely shifting the day(s) of purchase will not "hit the entire industry with a net loss of over $4.6 billion." Consumers won't be buying any less gasoline under this "gas out" proposal; they'll simply be purchasing gas a few days earlier or later than they usually would. The very same amount of gasoline will be sold either way, so the oil companies aren't going to lose any money at all. <br /><br />By definition, a boycott involves the doing without of something, with the renunciation of the boycotted product held up as tangible proof to those who supply the commodity that consumers are prepared to do without it unless changes are made. What the "gas out" calls for isn't consumers' swearing off using or buying gasoline, even for a short time, but simply shifting their purchases by a couple of days at most. Because the "gas out" doesn't call on consumers to make a sacrifice by actually giving up something, the threat it poses is a hollow one. <br /><br />Not buying gas on a designated day may make people feel a bit better about things by providing them a chance to vent their anger at higher gasoline prices, but the action won't have any real impact on retail prices. An effective protest would involve something like organizing people to forswear the use of their cars on specified days, an act that could effectively demonstrate the reality of the threat that if gasoline prices stay up, American consumers are prepared to move to carpooling and public transportation for the long term. Simply changing the day one buys gas, however, imparts no such threat, because nothing is being done without. <br /><br />Moreover, the primary potential effect of the type of boycott proposed in the "gas out" messages is to hurt those at the very end of the oil-to-gasoline chain, service station operators — the people who have the least say in setting gasoline prices. As such, the "gas out" is a punch on the nose delivered to the wrong person. <br /><br />Either apathy or an outbreak of common sense has made previous "gas outs" non-events with very low levels of participation, as documented by these snippets of news accounts from across North America: <br /><br /><br />Friday's gasoline boycott was an effort that sputtered, coughed, then died. Motorists continued to fill up gas-guzzling sport-utility vehicles and trucks alongside smaller vehicles despite a one-day protest aimed to pressure oil companies to lower gas prices. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Although a gasoline boycott that began as an electronic mail campaign kept some drivers nationwide away from the pump, dealers say they saw little, if any, effect on their traffic. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />In Seattle, there were so many cars waiting to get into [a] Texaco station . . . yesterday afternoon that it caused a backup five cars deep into [the] right-hand lane. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Reports indicated few motorists paid attention to a nationwide boycott touted initially by Internet e-mail and later by word of mouth. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />A planned nationwide boycott protesting the high price of gasoline didn't have much effect on local gas stations. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />"We were expecting something substantial," said Mark Johnson, the owner of a Chevron station. "We haven't really noticed much of a difference." <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Irving stations in sunny Halifax said the boycott had no effect on business. <br /><br />"It's been busy as a bugger here," said Bruce Riley, manager of one station. "We haven't been busier in the last two weeks," added the manager at another Halifax outlet. <br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Gas stations [in Ottawa] reported "busier than ever" conditions at the pumps on the day of The Great Internet Gas-Out. <br /><br />Gasoline is a fungible, global commodity, its price subject to the ordinary forces of supply and demand. No amount of consumer gimmickry and showmanship will lower its price in the long run; only a significant, ongoing reduction in demand will accomplish that goal. Unfortunately, for many people achieving that goal would mean cutting down on their driving or opting for less desirable economy cars over less fuel-efficient models, solutions they find unappealing. <br /><br />An event like a "gas out" can sometimes do some good by calling attention to a cause and sending a message. In this case, though, the only message being sent is: "We consumers are so desperate for gasoline that we can't even do without it for a few days to demonstrate our dissatisfaction with its cost." What supplier is going to respond to a message like that by lowering its prices? Those who really want to send a "message" to oil suppliers should try not buying any gasoline for several months in a row.
 

dolluper

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Up here in Canada the point of the boycott was to pressure the government to maybe reduce the taxes,as they would lose millions.One cent a litre is 1.7 million in lost taxes ,but the company's raised it 20 cents litre average[90 cents a gallon] which relates to 170 million lost taxes for the day .I agree it could just be a waste of time but maybe not to,it's worth a try atleast. The only way it could work is if you boycotted and didn't drive also ,then no useage
 

NYMINUTE

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I try to avoid gas buying everyday. Then I get a killer cost when I finally do. Cut down the trips.
 

Wimperdink

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Last time I filled the boat up at $1.70 a gallon... Havent been out since.. Thinking bout going out boating this weekend on my cheap gas while the lake is empty. :D
 

rwise

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Next time really show them, but a car that gets 60+ miles per gallon. I buy gas when I need it, the truck don't go so well without it and I (for one) don't like to walk. One day boycotts will do nothing, they will not even notice. Whats the dif 12 gallons yesterday 15 today or 18 tomorrow? You still bought it.
 

Bob_VT

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Laughing.... if we don't buy today we will not be able to afford to buy tomorrow!
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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If the media would shut up about it, maybe people would quit topping off their tanks before each price increase. When everyone tops off, all the stations have to reorder to keep their quantity up. More use means more demand. <br /><br />I know lots of people in my area don't wait till they are a quarter or less, they are filling up when they are at 3/4 of a tank. With the media keeps saying how bad it is and the price is going up, people is going to keep their practice up.<br /><br />I sure would like to see the major networks get fined for inducing panic of this matter.
 

JasonJ

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That is so true SS. Me, I have two tanks. I fill up when one is empty and the other one has maybe 1/4 or 1/2, depending on if I think about it. I don't top off, it's pointless. I will admit that I have missed a number of the price spikes through coincidence. I just filled my truck this last weekend, and should not need to gas up again for maybe 3-4 weeks (I don't drive it often), so I might miss this spike too. My boat tank is about 3/4 full, so if I do things smart, I might get some decent fishin' done without too much expenditure. The gas prices suck, but it is a bit overshadowed by our neighbors down in New Orleans, so I am not going to snivel one bit.
 

deputydawg

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This has been going around for a long time. I can not boycot gas, have to take my son to the doctor 50 miles away and the vans empty. Have to have gas in patrol car to serve my loyal fans. <br />Even if I did boycot gas today, I would have to make up for it tomorow or the next day.<br />In a week or two when the gas companies checked their till they would say wow, that one day was a slow day we did poor sales. BUT the next two days we made record sales! Life is good.
 

Pony

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In the poll i said I'd boycott, but then today i saw gas where i was fishing for 40 cents less than i pay here and it was for non-reformulated. there is no way i could pass that up. And now that I think of it, like others have said....it wont mean you wont have to buy the gas eventually
 

OLDSPUD

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Got to be kiddin if you think anyone cares about a 1 day boycott. I don't, and I think it's insane.<br /><br />I am so sick hearing about oil companies, bla bla bla. Same Story different scenerio.<br /><br />I like to drive my cars, turcks and boats. I do not care about them (oil companies). They sell gas at a price the market will bear, if not, the market will finally find another source of fuel.<br /><br />Go deprive yourself and, I'll go to work and make a buck.<br />Spud
 

Bassy

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I filled up yesterday, Aug. 31st at $2.99/gal and I knew I better not wait another day, so needless to say I didn't buy any today, Sept. 1st. But I know it'll be over $3.00/gal by this weekend and I don't need to buy any until next week. Ouch!<br />Bassy
 
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