Sea King

[keith-uk]

Hi all, could anyone help at all, I have a small collection of outboards and thats only because i like playing with engines and i go sailing weekends.
I have some outboards nothing special a seagull FVP, Anzani pilot, seabee 80cc J.A.P, 3hp seaking and a 5hp seaking.
Its the 5hp seaking, as for as i know its a basic CD-20 and its a 74GG so its a ward 1947, It runs sweet as a nut i can not find what i should look like when it was new, like decals and colour.
its red and silver not brown or green.
Thanks Keith.

 

[freddyray21]

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the early sea kings where made by Gale so it would be similar to the Johnson and Evinrude. post your question over at AOMCI.org and they can help.

 

[mthieme]

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My first motor was a 5hp Sea King. It looked like a johnnyrude. It was blue with white trim. I'm afraid that's all I can remember though - it was 40 years ago.

 

[tmcalavy]

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Yep, the late 40's Sea Kings had a silver LU/leg and powerhead with red tank/recoil and cowls. The decals were different from year to year. In 51, they went to a real sharp blue/green mist color, standardized the decals and stuck with that for about 3 years...then another style/color change came along in 55. Watch the auction site, you'll see a fairly original late 40's 5hp Sea King show up there sooner or later.

 

[keith-uk]

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Thanks Lads for the info, I will keep looking, by the way i'am looking for a prop for the 5hp, i think its the same as the 5.5hp Johnson?
Hard to find in the uk, some on American ebay but no post to uk.

 

[mthieme]

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www.fairwindsmarina.com might be able to help you out. They are a varietable gold mine of old parts. I don't know if they will ship to UK though...on your own there.

 

[freddyray21]

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I would post a wanted ad on AOMCI.org and see if a member will ship to you. I don't have one right now, but can look this next weekend at the meet and see if I can find one for you.

 

[keith-uk]

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That would be great if you could, i,am not in a rushed for one as it will not be used untill the summer, but if you come across one for a 5hp seaking that would be great.

 

[F_R]

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The '47 Gale Sea King is a far cry from a CD-20. Better be looking for Gale parts, not Johnson parts. The Gale prop has holes in it for water pickup to force-feed the water pump ahead of it.

 

[keith-uk]

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A 74GG is a gale but is not the engine the same as the cd-20?

 

[freddyray21]

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The '47 Gale Sea King is a far cry from a CD-20. Better be looking for Gale parts, not Johnson parts. The Gale prop has holes in it for water pickup to force-feed the water pump ahead of it.

thanks Frank I would not have know that. Don't have a pic of one do you?

 

[F_R]

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Here is a 3hp Gale pump. 5hp is similar.
As for the other question, a '47 Gale is a direct drive motor, a CD has full gearshift. The motors are totally different. A '47 Gale has a totally different powerhead also, with a totally different carburetor. A '47 Gale shares magnetos with a '47 Johnson (not the CD), also recoil starters. Very little else is shared.

Now to be fair, there was an Evinrude model that was similar.

 

[freddyray21]

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that's perfect Frank thanks. Do you know if they are the same except the hole? I am guessing not.

 

[keith-uk]

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Thanks for the info its only what i have picked up on the net, I have a 3hp seaking and that prop is damaged also but thats B.E.R.
but i would like the 5hp finished.
Give me a Seagull ,Anzani or Sea bee(uk one) i have them all and rebuilt all three but never seen a seaking before.
I do like to find out all i can, but sometimes you do not get the right info, and i would rather be put right by someone who knows.
And the picture of the prop is right and it has the holes. Same as this one.
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[freddyray21]

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Keith found you a prop. pm me

 

[keith-uk]

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Fred, prop looks good painted and fitted today.
Thank you for your help, you did not have to help, but you did and i thank you for that, your credit to this forum.
Thanks again.

 

[freddyray21]

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glad to help. So now if I go to the UK I have a place to stay. Just kidding I am afraid to leave the country they might not let me back in.

 

[keith-uk]

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With the weather over here, your welcome to it, only fell out the boat twice last weekend and only did one race, and its still f***ing cold with the full wet suit on.

 

[freddyray21]

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my sailboat is put up for the year. the lines and sheets are hanging in the hall closet and the sails safely tucked away.

 

[keith-uk]

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I had the 5hp seaking running in the tank last weekend and it pumped water very well, just hope i put the holes in the right place when i replaced one of the gaskets, it was running a bit lumpy on the lower rpm's.
Is there a better way to get the timing right, or is it 020" and thats it?
One thing a stud snaped when putting engine onto the leg, pulled it off to try and re-tap but all that was in the hole was rust, the stud had rusted away from the inside, no tapping to do just replace the stud with a new one.