Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

levittownnick

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The Former General Manager of General Instrument, my previous employer, and a friend wrote this:<br /><br />Hi GI friends,<br /><br /> Hi friends, <br /> Today was a sad day for our country and our senior citizens and our lower income people. <br />The senate today voted fifty-fifty to cut planned spending for Medicare, Medicaid, and other planned expends for low income people. (EVEN SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS DID NOT HAVE THE HEART TO VOTE FOR IT. <br /> Now with a fifty-fifty tie in our democracy, the vice president casts the deciding vote. It would not take genius to figure out how Cheney would vote.<br /> Last month our government who is sponsored by the rich, voted to extend the tax breaks to the wealthy and now after cutting the government's income because of this tax break to the rich, turns around and says we must reduce the deficit so we have to cut Medicaid, Medicare, etc.<br /> How can our government be so heartless? It is easy for multimillionaires like Cheney to vote in the affirmative to cut benefits to the poor, the elderly and the disadvantaged. The answer is that it does not effect them personally at all. What helps them is the extension of the tax breaks to the people earning over $100,000 a year!<br /> Can I be specific? Let me tell you one way. Elderly people tend to get cataracts in the eyes. <br /> {With age your eyes become clouded over and in order not to become blind (which in the old days <br />almost thirty percent of the elderly would be so affected).}<br /> But how there are wonderful new ways to stop this disease (what could be as scary as the thought of becoming blind)<br />Medicare used to pay for this new very important procedure. Now I understand, as of January 1. 2006, this operation will cost Medicare patients $900. for each eye. Then on the first of Feb, <br />Medicare will not pay for any of the $2300. this operation costs. I think that slowly Medicare will pay for less and less of the newest medical procedures. <br /> and another way that Medicare and Medicaid patients are getting worse and worse medical care? the best and most experienced senior doctors are opting out of Medicare in a big way. The doctors do not want to be strapped to the Medicare list of ever reducing Medicare allowances. Many doctors drop out of Medicare and tell their Medicare patients "go see young doctor JOHN JONES, he is taking Medicare patients. I know this for a fact. In the past few years three of our doctors have elected to drop out of Medicare. And, of course you can imagine they were our best doctors. But they tell us they do not want to be limited to the Medicare paper work. Of course that is not the reason, It is the schedule of payments. Which limits their income, that changes their minds about staying with Medicare? <br />WHILE THIS IS GOING ON. MY MEDICARE MONTHLY CONTRIBUTIONS WENT UP 15 PERCENT THIS YEAR.<br /> So more and more the economically disadvantaged and the elderly are being hit at every turn.<br /> I do not use the word poor because you may not be poor in the big cities of our country to be struggling to despair.<br /> So, today all of you who voted for the present government should remember that you too will reach 65 someday and what will be left for you then?<br /><br /> Gene
 
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DJ

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

You lost me in the first paragraph-"for the rich".<br /><br />By the way, the "richest" people in the US government are Democrats, buy a WIDE margin. LOOK IT UP.<br /><br />I am 47 and will NEVER see anything like the care that todays ederly see. I'll be euthanized, by the looks of things.
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

Quit your complaning! We need to finance foreign aid & the Iraqi war somehow.... ;) .....JK
 
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Haut,<br /><br />You're damn right we need to fund it. I like freedom over tyranny, anyday,<br /><br />Our (US) freedom will be lost by inside, "tyranny", after we win freedom for deserving people(s) throughout the world.<br /><br />We, once proud, will be a laughing stock-soon. Why? We couldn't manage what we were so dearly given.<br /><br />Individualist greed will take over for patriotism and common good.<br /><br />BTW, DO NOT take Common Good as meaning COMMUNISM. Two completely different issues.<br /><br />Common Good, US style, means doing the right thing, by your neighbor, not trying to stick it to him with the governments help.
 

QC

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

Tax cuts create MORE revenue . . . Next inaccurate leap please.
 
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QC,<br /><br />LOOK IT UP. Regans tax cuts created a threefold increase in revenue.<br /><br />Trouble is, a Dem. Congress ate it, like pigs.<br /><br />Again, LOOK IT UP.<br /><br />Whenever tried, it has done so.<br /><br />A biased media is NOT the truth. You have to dig deeper. If you do not believe it, don't be offended when you are left behind by those that "get it".
 

levittownnick

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

I guess Cheney, Enron, etc. "got it".
 
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I guess Cheney, Enron, etc. "got it".
Another one that has taken the "pill".<br /><br />The endless repitition of drivel doled out by a VERY biased TV media. Blah, blah, blah, over the cliff we go hating Enron and all corps. Blah, blah, blah..<br /><br />Truth is a foreign concept. Not completely misunderstood after feeding at the trough of the biggest liar to ever enter politics-William Clinton. Also, Cheney divested ALL interets in Haliburton before entering office. Gore did not, nor has Kennedy and others. The smell of the rat is being wafted in the wrong direction.<br /><br />BTW, Pres. Bill can't get over talking about how rich he is now. How does one suppose that happened???? He sure as He!! didn't EARN it.
 
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TXS,<br /><br />I do.<br /><br />We'll never see eye to eye, from what I can tell.<br /><br />But, that is the beauty of this country, for now.<br /><br />Trouble is, the masses get their opinions formed by ONE side. One, by a media that is 95%, self admitted-leftist, and two-by apathy.
 

QC

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

DJ,<br /><br />I need to be more clear, unlike you and txs we are completely on the same page. I was stating that tax cuts create revenue and I was sending it to levittownnick . . .
 
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DJ

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QC,<br /><br />I guess, a misread, on my part. It is SO INFREQUENT that ANYBODY in DC agrees with me, I guess I freaked out on you.<br /><br /> Sorry.
 

levittownnick

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

Haliburton! Now there is a bed of what makes roses grow.
 
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Haliburton! Now there is a bed of what makes roses grow.
That's an interesting take.<br /><br />We don't give a damn what:<br /><br />Toyota makes.<br /><br />Nissan makes.<br /><br />Mitsubishi makes.<br /><br />Panasonic makes.<br /><br />Yamaha makes.<br /><br />Suzuki makes.<br /><br />etc......<br /><br />Why is that? They may be very well raping the citizens of this country blind. Nobody cares. Let's see their REAL numbers. Can't. Why? They are foreign owned. Hands off to US prying eyes.<br /><br />Haliburton is one company, in the world, that does what no other company can do, as efficiently as they do. That is: defense services.<br /><br />Others have tried, to no avail.<br /><br />I'm no fan, but I'm not going to rip an outfit for being good at what they do.
 

JB

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

"Tax cuts for the richest Americans". What a crock! Tax cuts for all Americans so the money stays in the economy is more like it. People spend it, it creates jobs, and it INCREASES federal tax revenues.<br /><br />Well, I am well over 65, have cataracts and I don't expect the government to change my diaper.<br /><br />This class warfare cr*p is the makings of the liberal establishment and the press. Believe it and you will end up in a socialist state and a decline to a third class country.
 

txswinner

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

Amazing, and I thought that little Duncan OK company was in oil field service. <br /><br />DJ, They began Defenses Services when Cheney lead young GW to the trough. I spent many years with Haliburton so do not try to tell me different, this I do know and know well.
 

txswinner

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Haliburton has experience through Brown & Root on how to rip off our country in war. Get it: Vietnam Brown & Root (George Brown & Lyndon, Shamrock Hilton Hotel monthly in Houston), Haliburton buys B&R. Now it is Iraq Haliburton, no longer Lady Bird, rather Cheney.
 
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Amazing, and I thought that little Duncan OK company was in oil field service. <br />
I thought you KNEW/KNOW Haliburton-your words, not mine. Guess not.<br /><br />Why is it you never answer a question or comment on what is written? Instead, you just toss out more smoke bombs.<br /><br />I'm done, debate is supposed to be a two way discussion of topics on the table. I can't tell what's on the table. Too much smoke.
 

imported_Curmudgeon

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Re: Sad Day for Those Who Make 65 or Over

.. to cut planned spending for Medicare, Medicaid, and other planned expends for low income people.<br /><br />Yeah, it's a cut in funds the Democrats had planned to spend. Last I looked no funding for these areas was cut; a reduced increase in spending, to be sure, but hardly a cut in funding they'd have you believe. This is the same crowd that cloaks tax increase after tax increase in the guise of a "fee". Call it what you want, but it's more money out of your pocket going to government.
 
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