Removal of Oil Pan

[Stinger84]

I have an '84 Mercruiser 140 I/O. Oil is leaking from the oil pan into the bilge. Trying to remove oil pan to attempt to repair with JB Weld, but am having much difficulty. In order to remove oil pan, I have to first remove starter. I have disconnected all electrical wiring. My understanding is there are 2 bolts holding starter in place. I have removed one bolt from starter, but I can't seem to find 2nd bolt holding the starter in the back. Any suggestions?

 

[Bt Doctur]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

Either straight across or staggered

 

[libellav15]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

you not just pulling the engine?

what kind of clerance have you got under the engine buddy>

i've got the same job to do on mine - never even considered leaving the engine in.

mind you having just received the new sump i can see that all the bolts should be easy to get to - so good luck - hope it goes well - will save my hours too if its do-able.

re the starter - are you talking about the two very long 8mm bolts that run from the rear of the starter? if so mine are directly opposite each other

don't look strong enough to be the actual mounting bolts though - maybe you are referring to different ones?

good luck

adam

 

[alien4fish]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

ok to get back on point, I did not see what type of boat you have or the engine, however with being said "I" have a merc260(chevy 350) and had the exact same problem you now have, there was NOT enuf room to drop the oil pan and its nearly impossible to get to all the bolts that go around the perimeter of the block. You are waaaaaaay better off pulling your engine and replacing the the pan.
Good luck,
Kevin

 

[achris]

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ok to get back on point, I did not see what type of boat you have or the engine, however with being said "I" have a merc260(chevy 350) and had the exact same problem you now have, there was NOT enuf room to drop the oil pan and its nearly impossible to get to all the bolts that go around the perimeter of the block. You are waaaaaaay better off pulling your engine and replacing the the pan.
Good luck,
Kevin

Agree....

 

[alien4fish]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

ok going back and rereading your 1st post, it looks like you have an inline6?
so there maybe just maybe enuf room but i doubt it.
Now, check this out, there is a product that JB weld makes thats a PUDDY! it comes in tubeand you have to nead it to get the to chemicals to start the hardening proccess. Heres what I did as a temporary <----------- (the key word here)Fix. I drained the oil then used sand paper to scuff the paint and rusted steel around the hole, I used a smalll square mirror on the bottom of the bilge to see what i was doing, then cleaned it with brake cleaner REALLY REALLY good. Neaded the JB WELD putty and slapped it up and in the small hole. And just kept working it in until it began to harden.............and it worked! I then pulled the motor anyway to do a repower but thats another story.
Good Luck!

 

[Stinger84]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

Thanks for all the responses. The picture of the starter with the bolts was a huge help. I was able to remove starter and oil pan without raising the engine. Oil pan is full of rust. Found the little holes where the oil was leaking and will attempt to repair.

 

[a70eliminator]

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Wait a minute, your not going to just replace that oil pan?
How do you plan on repairing it, hopefully metal work, please don't say liquid steel?

 

[achris]

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I've repaired plenty of rusty sumps. usually the rust is confined to the bottom (that's usually the only bit that gets wet). I just cut the rusty parts out and weld in a piece of 2mm sheet. Then I grind it nice and level. Last step is to have it hot dip galvanised... Then a coat of Phantom Black, bolt it up (with new s/s bolts) and stop worrying about it....

Chris.........

 

[a70eliminator]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

Whats's 2mm about 16ga? Yes that would be how I would do it, provided the rest of the pan was good, unless I could pick up another pan for cheap, like 50.00.

 

[achris]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

Whats's 2mm about 16ga?

Bit thicker than 14ga

Yes that would be how I would do it, provided the rest of the pan was good, unless I could pick up another pan for cheap, like 50.00.

Of course I would replace the pan completely if it was more than just the bottom. Even then, I would grit blast the replacement and have it dipped....

Chris.....

 

[libellav15]

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hi achris

i'm sure you'll know what i'm referring to when i say - sorry about the bickering buddy (now deleted) - unnecessary and not very constructive

no hard feelings mate

good luck

adam

 

[a70eliminator]

Re: Removal of Oil Pan

Very good lilballav, very good.
Stinger, I would love to see pictures of your oil pan.