Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

[martyscher]

I'm considering a pickup for boat towing, that will eventually carry a camper too.<br /><br />Here in Colorado, it seems like you are always either going up or going down a hill (mountain?), so it seems the uphills put a pretty good strain on a transmission.<br /><br />I currently pull the boat only with 5 speed manual Pathfinder with little difficulty (other than lack of power ), So I am fine with shifting a manual and load under tow.<br /><br />There are horror stories about expensive and unreliable auto tranny rebuilds, although hydralics usually support a greater towing load (at least on the Nissan).<br /><br />Would a manual be more suitable for my area?<br /><br />Any comments welcome.

 

[6MISFITZ]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

I have to admit that nothing really beats having an automatic transmission at the bottom of the boat ramp but ultimately the choice is still up to you.<br /><br />Todays Big 3 (GM, Ford, Chrysler) trucks come with very good towing packages which inlude just about every mechanical option you need. <br />Heavy Duty automatics.<br />Transmission and engine oil coolers.<br />Posi, or limited slip axles.<br />Brake and suspension options to suit your needs.<br />Big weight platform hitches and harnesses that come from the factory.<br />These options might be available now from the imports too, but I have not been in that market yet so make sure you compare options to options or apples to apple.<br /><br />I like the automatics over standards for towing, especially when you get stuck in the city traffic trying to all leave at the same time for the cottage.<br />It also boils down to maintaining your tow vehicle too. If you take care of your equipment, then I haven't had a problem in more than 10 years. People who don't change fluids and pull no matter how big it is are never happy when things break and go crying to the dealers.<br /><br />Still your choice!<br />Good Luck.

 

[martyscher]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

Good point!<br /><br />I have to admit that I do experience "clutch foot" in slow traffic and I don't expect clutching behind a big V8 to be any easier

 

[JB]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

Howdy, Martyscher.<br /><br />Automatic. 5 speed intelligent auto, if possible.<br /><br />The computer knows exactly when a lower gear is wanted, or a higher gear is adequate.<br /><br />When clutches slip on loading or mountain shifting, wear is produced. When an auto shifts no such thing happens, but heat is produced, so you need a good tranny cooler.<br /><br />Modern, computer controlled autos with lockup converters are more fuel efficient than sticks and they reduce wear and tear on the driver, too.<br /><br />Good luck.

 

[6MISFITZ]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

That just reminded me Marty and JB. <br />The new 2500HD. and 3500 Series GM pick up's and duallies have a 5 speed Allison Automatic. This is a Heavy Duty unit that comes with the new Turbo Diesel engine. This transmission allows for proper engine braking for going down hill. <br />(I gear down in my van but the turbo diesel set up is better.)<br />Plus these trucks come with a Transmission Temperature Gauge not found elsewhere, yet.<br /><br />Please let us know how you make out.<br />Mike.

 

[DaleT]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

Mike is dead on with the Allison trans. I work with GM vehicles and that truck is a monster. So far we've only had the 2500HD with 4x4 but they are made for hauling and towing loads. The torque is really amazing. They also have a tall first gear.

 

[DJ]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

Marty,<br /><br />The 03 model Ford Super Duties get a 6.0L Powerstroke engine coupled to a PowerTorque 5 speed electronically controlled automatic.<br /><br />The trans. also has a tow/haul mode, external filter and a PTO should you fancy one.<br /><br />The new 6.0L engine has more torque and horsepower than the 7.3L it replaces with better fuel economy.<br /><br />The new Powertorque trans. will also be available behind the 6.8L V-10 gas.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

Automatic transmissions are "torque multipling" as opposed to an automatic. I would say an automatic would be best for your needs as long as you keep out of OD on the hills.<br /><br />Bob

 

[RG]

Re: Reliability - Manual vs Auto Trans

If you are purchasing new,go to your GM dealer and look for something with the Allison transmission...you won't find a better towing set up.If you will be looking for used stay with a 2500 in the GM,Ford or Dodge.As far as imports go... there isn't one that is capable of handling a heavy load.Manual-vs-Auto...GM hasn't had a good manual trans. for years but I've heard Ford has a good one in their F-250.One other thing....DIESEL DIESEL DIESEL....Duramax if you can swing it.