Really ugly fish.

oregonducker

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Just thought I'd show off last Saturdays catch. White sturgeon from the Columbia River if you were wondering. 43, 48, 51 & 54 inches. Grand total of 73 pounds. They don't weigh as much as you think they would. Why is it that the really ugly fish are often the best eating? Sturgeon, catfish, Ling Cod and most of the other bottom fish in the ocean come to mind. Not that pretty fish like salmon and trout aren't good. Just wondering.<br />
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gonfishn

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Strange lookn critters there OD..Never have eatn one..Please don't tell me they taste like chicken.. :D I do hear they put on a show when you are pulln them in...How much did the big one hit the scales at?
 

oregonducker

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Re: Really ugly fish.

They were 25, 20, 17 and 10 pounds. That equals 72 not 73. :rolleyes: Anyway, they do know how to fight. These ones were caught in deep water (70'+) and they normally just keep pulling for the bottom then but in shallow water, say 20' or less, they can run and jump with the best of them. The really big ones (7'-10'+) will usually give you one good jump no matter how deep it is. Pretty cool when a two hundred pound fish comes out of the water fifty feet from your boat.
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

nice,<br />We have to spear them, thru a hole in the ice on Lake Winnebago. Yes I said spear them. A spear with rope connected, through the spear, pull 'em in.<br />A new record fish weighing 188# was taken.
 

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We have a very limited sturgeon season here on the rainy river. I would like to try them next spring but know nothing about them. No one here ever talks about there table quality so I figured they were either not real good or kept a secret to reduce fishing preasure. Sounds like kept a secret...Tell me how you like to cook them and what your prefered bait is. I wanna know more...
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

I've had them smoked, the old fashioned way.<br />Very tasty for a 20, 30, 50? year old fish.<br /><br />Makes good caviar too.<br /><br />From Harborside.com<br />"This is a brute of a fish, capable of growing to 16 feet or longer and weighing more than 1,500 pounds. It's a slow grower, though, and often a late breeder, characteristics that call for special measures to assure the survival of the species. "<br /><br />"White sturgeon grow slowly but live long. Although growth rates vary from one estuary to another, most young fish grow to about 20 inches in five years and add two inches in length each following year, to about age 35. After that, they grow more in bulk than length. <br /><br />Spawning in fresh water, usually in May or June, 35-pound females lay nearly 700,000 eggs, while the largest specimens of 800 pounds or more can produce three to four million eggs, with a mass weight exceeding 200 pounds. Poor parents, the adults leave eggs unattended and let young fend for themselves. <br /><br />Juveniles consume mainly insect larvae, mysid shrimp, tiny crustaceans, mollusks, and other freshwater and marine invertebrates. After about five years, their preference turns to fish, which then make up about half their diet. <br /><br />Male white sturgeon mature sexually any time between 11 and 22 years of age, females between 26 and 34. They survive spawning and may reproduce several times during their lives, although intervals between spawning get longer as the fish age. While younger females spawn every four years, older fish might spawn only once every decade. So it's important to protect the brood stock. <br /><br />Toward that end, Oregon enforces strict size and catch limits, permitting anglers to keep two sturgeon a day: one between 40 and 48 inches, and one between 48 and 72 inches. Larger or smaller fish must be released unharmed. <br /><br />Old photographs survive showing white sturgeon so big they had to be hauled out of the water with block and tackle or teams of mules. Many fish of 800 to 1,000 pounds or more were caught around the turn of the century. By the 1920s the biggest breeders were gone. <br /><br />Sturgeon of such huge size have lived for 60 to 80 years or more, so replenishing the brood stock is a slow process. Protecting them and the estuaries they depend on is essential if these great fish are to survive."
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Just answered my own question by reading Roscoe's whole post.
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

They are in several rivers here in WI. I believe the hook and line record was out of Yellow Lake in Burnett Co. 170 lbs +/- That's about 5 miles from where I work. I've caught a 46" that went 22 pounds and had on a couple that were much bigger in the Chippewa River. <br />They are good fighters but around here the minimum length is 50". <br />Later.<br />Dman
 
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Re: Really ugly fish.

Funny this came up. There hasn't been any in this area for over a hundred years, then all of a sudden one's been spotted on a local river here. Only a four footer but really raised some eyebrows in our little town. Really cool fish!<br /><br />bside troller
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Oregonducker<br />I am suprised the small one are legal. What is the slot limits up there. Down here in California must be between 46 and 72 inches. Hook and line record here is 468 lb and it will stand forever as a 72 inch fish weights right at 100 lb for a female. <br /><br />I hook a 65 Lb Sturgeon one day and it came right at the boat went under the boat and Jumped completely out of the water within 10 feet of the boat on the other side.<br /><br />Sturgeon is Great eating and has no bones at all not even a back bone. Only thing is must skin and get the dark red meat cut off right under the skin or that part will taste a little strong.<br /><br />Fun fish to catch.
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Here in Oklahoma paddlefish are the rage. We allow snagging :p The caviar business has put a curb on the limits though. Only 1 a day is allowed with a limited season and they have to be tagged with license info. Catch and release is allowed until one is tagged. They used to let commercial fishermen get hundreds with gill nets.
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Ugly fish? Those things are beautiful...<br /><br />Having grown up near Shawano WI it was an annual outing to see the sturgeon come up the Wolf River on their spawning run out of Winnebago. Once they get up to the dam you can practically walk across their backs from one side of the river to the next. <br /><br />This year I heard reports that a 150 pounder and a 130 pounder were netted and tagged during the run. I can't confirm this but it is possible.
 

oregonducker

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Re: Really ugly fish.

Boatist,<br />Currently the slot is 42 - 60 or 45 - 60 depending on what part of the river you're fishing in. 1 keeper a day but you're only allowed 5 for the whole year. We don't have an official record here. Apparently none were ever officially entered in the books before they started the slot limit so now we'll never know. I don't know what I'd do with one of the big ones if I could keep it anyway. 10 or 12 foot fish is more than what I want to take home. There's an old picture in the book that MellowYellow posted above that shows a sturgeon that has been estimated at 1800 pounds if I remember right. Caught around the turn of the last century on the Snake river near Payette, Idaho.<br /><br />ulbia,<br />If I was to make a list of pretty and ugly fish, sturgeon would have to be on the ugly side.
 

mellowyellow

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Re: Really ugly fish.

sure wouldn't want a 10-12' one flopping around<br />on MY boat! maybe a harpoon? LOL
 

ulbian

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oregonducker,<br /><br />I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I just look at their whole spawning run and process as a beautiful thing. Wouldn't want to kiss one, that's for sure, but the beauty in it to me is the longevity of these things and also the fact that they truly are an anachronism.<br /><br />The other thing is that in WI they are very limited to the Winnebago system and a handful of rivers. Aside from the annual spearing season on the big lake you are very limited in your harvest of sturgeon (the only time you can legally take them out of the Winnebago system is during the spearing season) which makes it even more impressive when they go on their annual run. It's a sign of spring around here and after our winters the first sight of a sturgeon is a sight for sore eyes, and the reintroduction of these fish into waters where they had been decimated (Wisconsin River, parts of Lake Michigan among others) is what many around here would see as a wonderful thing.
 

oregonducker

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ulbian,<br />I absolutely agree with you on their beauty when you put it that way. They are amazing critters. I have to go and purposely fish for the giants at least once a year and part of it is just so I can see one up close, even touch it. Gives you the willies to think there's something down there that big. They're pretty harmless though. Unless, of course, one got into your boat.
 

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I would love to see them return to the East Coast. They are pretty well extinct in the Chesapeake watershed. Years ago they were common.<br /><br />Jinx
 

riptide116

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Re: Really ugly fish.

hello all<br />I have done some shore fishin upstream from ya,right acrost from the dalles on the Mighty Columbia,kick in the pants caching them,the size limit vary's between dams,where I was at it was 60inch for max size.<br />seen some interesting things in the library at Goldendale Wa. with old photo's of sturgon fishing with 4 & 6 team horses and a few pics of em using a big crane to haul them dinosaur's outta the water.<br />hook into a fish thats the size of your livingroom couch and mebbi 150'ish in weight will strip your line real quick(learned the hard way)<br /><br />while on the Columbia and if your shore fishing,my advice is to look and listen for rattle-snakes,that would be a really suck'ey way to end a fishing trip,<br />at night the bats will get confused and fly all around your fishing line(thats hanging from your pole to water) if ya hold it still,fun to wach em.<br /><br />dont forget to wear bug-be-gone otherwise your feeding the mosqito's.<br /><br />smooth waters.<br />Peace.
 

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Re: Really ugly fish.

I just got back from fishing the Columbia River about 4 miles below Bonneville DAm. The 3 I caught were 120, 450 and 500 pounds. In total the 6 of us caught 13 sturgeon, only 3 were under 250 pounds. These weights were estimates from guides who catch these fish regularly.<br /><br />Believe it or not.
 
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