reading plugs and tuuning motor

scooter4n

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I have 3.0 1990 mecruiser.
Runs and starts good.

I took plugs out and they are nice and black. Should I lean it up a little to get more power to the motor?

Thank you
 

mkast

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

Find out why the plugs are black, trouble shoot.
Choke?
 

Rat Capri

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

need to find out what area caused the rich condition, i.e. idle, cruise, wot and then tune in that area...most likely need to adjust idle fuel flow on your carb
 

scooter4n

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

overall it runs good.
Starts good, idles good, and runs good at any speed.
I just say lean it up little over all, the full mixture little??? what you think?
 

mkast

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

Get the maintenance manual, follow the trouble shooting section.
Tune up that area???
 

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

I just say lean it up little over all, the full mixture little??? what you think?

Ayuh,.... just How are you going to go about doing That,..?? I'm kinda Curious,....
 

JustJason

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

IO carbs are not weedwhacker carbs.... they don't have adjustable jets. And the idle mixture screw does nothing outside of idle.
your plugs are probably fine, just old. You said it starts good and runs good, so why mess with it.
 

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

Clean the carpet fibers and dog hair out of the flame arrestor.

With a husky mix I swear we spend more time vacuuming things than using them.
 

Bondo

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

Ooops,.... Wrong button,.. Sorry,....

It's Not post paddin',... Honest...
 

Don S

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

The only way to read the plugs is to make a good run, then shut it off and look at the plugs. Running at idle for a long while (docking, no wake zones, starting and running on muffs and shutting off, etc) all cause them to look black and make you think there is a problem.
 

mkast

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

meant tune in that area....idle circuit,main circuit or cruise (power valve ?)

When the engine was new, the carburetor was setup for the engine.
The idea here is to find out why the sparkplugs are black, not to adjust to hide a condition.
As mentioned, plugs may need replacement, so, let's tune for bad plugs.
 

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

As Don says, the only way to tune by reading plugs is to do a sustained power run to bring the plugs up to typical operating conditions, then chop the ignition. On a car or motorcycle you do this by turning off the ignition as you push in the clutch or knock it into nuetral. ANY idling will distort the results on a carbureted engine (fuel injection is different, the high pressure and small orfices of a fuel injector vaporize the fuel as well at idle as at speed). NOTHING wrong with black plugs at idle conditions on a carbed engine. Air mass flow is too low, fuel isn't atomizing very well at idle conditions in a carbed engine. You can diddle the idle ajustment screws all you want to, but as long as the engine will idle the plugs are going to be dark at idle. No way to vaporize sufficient fuel at low air flows without having excess fuel to begin with.

If you want to read your boat plugs, run it where you're interested (cruise, full speed, etc) for several minutes then turn off the ignition just before you pull the throttle back to nuetral. DON"T BE SURPRISED IF YOU SUCK SOME WATER INTO THE MOTOR AND DESTROY IT!!!! This is probably why this technique is not typically used on boats ......

Starts good, idles good, and runs good at any speed.
I just say lean it up little over all,

Are you crazy? Too much time on your hands? Just want to mess with something? Go ahead and lean it out if you like, maybe it will go .00003 MPH faster, or use 1/100 gallon less gas every year. Maybe give the distributor a good random twist and adjust the timing some at the same time. Sounds like a good trade to me to risk burning up your engine when you lean it out too far .....
 

JustJason

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Re: reading plugs and tuuning motor

either way to do a plug chop you need to start with NEW plugs. you cant plug chop old plugs and expect to read them.
like i said before, if it runs and starts good then don't screw with it. Your plugs are black because either they are old or you don't run the boat hard enough to get the plugs to their self cleaning temperature. Or a combination of both.
 
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