Queen Camilla???

WillyBWright

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Dec 29, 2003
Messages
8,200
Apparently there is no legal reason that Camilla can't become Queen of England. That aside, can the Monarchy survive this marriage and King/Queen? Chucky's Uncle abdicated the throne to marry his love and maintain the legitimacy of the Throne. Shouldn't Chucky? Is anybody likely to give him much respect (do they now?)? As the Head of the Anglican Church, does he have any credibility with this marriage? I think the predictions are right. Chuck WILL be the last King of England. Nobody likes him, he's spineless, and a total embarrassment to the British Isles. HE SHOULD ABDICATE!!! IMHO.
 

WillyBWright

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Dec 29, 2003
Messages
8,200
Re: Queen Camilla???

I'd like to see Charles bypassed and William crowned. Let's have a vote. :D
 

LadyFish

Admiral
Joined
Mar 18, 2003
Messages
6,894
Re: Queen Camilla???

She deserves Sainthood to be marrying Charles, forget about the Queenship.
 

NYMINUTE

Captain
Joined
Oct 6, 2003
Messages
3,298
Re: Queen Camilla???

I go with Hillary Clinton as KING, Our friends in the UK (soon to be former friends) would embrace this "Fine" senator from my home state of NY. Possibly if the European countries see what we deal with they may consider William immediatly. Will he wear his famed swastica to the coronation?? Just a thought. :p
 

dolluper

Captain
Joined
Jul 19, 2004
Messages
3,903
Re: Queen Camilla???

His sons can if they change the laws in about 17 other countries I heard that this morning on the fly out the door didn't hear the law they were talking about though So she could end up Queeeeen
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: Queen Camilla???

She cannot become Queen. It has already been announced that she will be Princess of somewhere or other.<br /><br />By English law William is next in line to Charles.
 

Elmer Fudge

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Aug 25, 2003
Messages
1,881
Re: Queen Camilla???

Yup, just like Philip is not king, even though he's the Queen's husband, he's called the Duke of Edinburgh, i call him Philip the Greek :D <br />Camilla will probably be called the whatever consort or the Duchess of something or the other :rolleyes:
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Aug 25, 2002
Messages
17,651
Re: Queen Camilla???

Wait just a minute, she can become Queen if the law is not changed.<br /><br />"But the British government, quizzed in parliament over the sensitive issue, said on Monday that legislation would be required in Britain to deny Parker Bowles the title of queen."<br /><br />It was established in 1936 that the King’s spouse automatically becomes queen unless there is a law passed to the contrary.<br /><br /><br />If that happens she would be known as the Princess Consort.
 

LadyFish

Admiral
Joined
Mar 18, 2003
Messages
6,894
Re: Queen Camilla???

JB and SBN, y'all are really starting to scare me. You both know WAY too much about such things. ;)
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Aug 25, 2002
Messages
17,651
Re: Queen Camilla???

Originally posted by LadyFish:<br /> JB and SBN, y'all are really starting to scare me. You both know WAY too much about such things. ;)
You don't know the half of it LF. :D
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: Queen Camilla???

My mother was descended from the Hamiltons, Earls of somewhere or other, Ballinkreif I think it was. She kept very close touch with things like that. . . had a sense of kinship with the Windsors. I pay attention out of respect for her memory.<br /><br />This orgy of Charles bashing annoys me most of the time and offends me the rest of the time. Anyone remotely familiar with the post-Victorian history of the crowned heads of Europe and the UK will find Charles a better than average candidate to be King.<br /><br />The unimpeachable records of his Mother and Grandfather, Elizabeth II and George VI, notwithstanding, there is no requirement to be perfect or pretty.<br /><br />I see no problem with Camilla becoming Princess Consort, or even Queen Consort. That doesn't require any qualification that she lacks.<br /><br />Some people read too many fairy tales and gossip rags and too little history.
 

rolmops

Vice Admiral
Joined
Feb 24, 2002
Messages
5,339
Re: Queen Camilla???

I sincerely hope that this may be the worst of our problems.Because that means that our lives are good.
 

dolluper

Captain
Joined
Jul 19, 2004
Messages
3,903
Re: Queen Camilla???

We sort of keep in touch a little more than the states since we still are sort of under British rule with our Governor General who represents the Queen seems more cosimetic these days
 

samagee

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Aug 7, 2003
Messages
644
Re: Queen Camilla???

I don't serve any king or queen, not even on my dinner table as the main course. :p
 

Tinkerer

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Mar 15, 2003
Messages
760
Re: Queen Camilla???

Here's what The Times in London says.<br /><br /> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1538988,00.html <br /><br />Commonwealth may renounce Queen Camilla - and the Crown<br />By Richard Beeston, Roger Maynard and David Adams<br /><br />Some of the sovereign countries who have the monarch as Head of State ‘want out’<br /> <br /> <br />THE confusion triggered by the Prince of Wales’s marriage to Camilla Parker Bowles could precipitate a new wave of republicanism across Britain’s former colonies and jeopardise the future monarch’s chances of becoming head of the Commonwealth. <br /><br />As the debate rages over whether Mrs Parker Bowles will become Queen Camilla, the issue has caused deep concern among some of the 15 sovereign countries around the world who still recognise the British monarch as their head of state. <br /> <br />Joel Kibazo, spokesman for the Commonwealth Secretariat, which is prepared to offer legal and technical advice to its members on the constitutional implications of the marriage, said: “We understand that some of the states concerned do want to know what their options are. <br /><br />“We do know that one or two want out.” <br /><br />While the debate in Britain has centred on what title the future wife of the King will bear, the overwhelming view of constitutional experts overseas is that she will be Queen Camilla, wife of King Charles, when he ascends the throne. <br /><br />The implications could be serious for the monarchy. Apart from a wave of republicanism, the change in attitude further damages the likelihood of Prince Charles taking the leadership of the Commonwealth, at present headed by his mother. <br /><br />“It is not automatic that Prince Charles will become head of the Commonwealth,” the Commonwealth spokesman said. “It will be decided by the leaders of the 53 member states. It is not something that needs to be addressed now.” <br /><br />A sounding of opinions among member states suggests that the mood is not favourable for the Prince and that most members would prefer to make a break with the monarchy and choose a leader from another country. <br /><br />Certainly, the impending royal wedding has reignited the debate in Australia, which voted by 55 per cent to 45 per cent six years ago in a referendum to keep the Queen as head of state — but only, it was claimed at the time, because the alternative offered by John Howard, the pro-monarchist Prime Minister, was a president picked by an electoral college of the country’s healthily despised politicians. <br /><br />In an article in The Australian newspaper yesterday, headlined “Off with an English head of state”, Allison Henry, director of the Australian Republican Movement, said that “the prospect of a future King Charles and Queen Camilla has reminded Australians about the unfinished business of our republic”. <br /><br />The Republican Movement has recorded a steep rise in membership in recent weeks after a lacklustre royal visit by the Prince and the doubts raised by his marriage. Two recent opinion polls revealed that slightly more than half of Australians favoured becoming a republic. The figures increased when people were asked about the Prince becoming their head of state. <br /><br />“Our next head of state is set to be Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor of London, England, whether we like it or not. And if you believe those latest reports out of London, right by his side will be Queen Camilla,” Ms Henry wrote. “These decisions are being implemented on the other side of the world, in accordance with arcane and discriminatory laws, with no input from Australian citizens.” <br /><br />New Zealand has also signalled that it will follow the republican path. “I can see a future where New Zealand will select its own head of state,” Helen Clark, the Prime Minister, said during Prince Charles’s visit to the country. She added, however, that the decision would not be taken soon. <br /><br />In the Caribbean, where the Queen is recognised as head of state in 12 nations, Jamaica and Barbados are already taking steps to become republics. <br /><br />The constitutional ambiguity caused by the marriage could accelerate that process and persuade other Caribbean nations to follow suit. Barbados is the furthest along that route after Owen Arthur, the Prime Minister, proposed saying goodbye to the Queen earlier this year. A referendum is expected to be held this summer and campaigning is just getting under way. <br /> <br />In Jamaica, P. J. Patterson, the Prime Minister, came out in support of a republican form of government at his party’s annual conference in September 2002 and wants to enact the change before general elections in two years’ time. <br />“Our position has always been based not so much on the personality of any individual, but on our constitutional relationship with the Queen as an institution and our head of state,” Senator Burchell Whiteman, the Jamaican Minister of Information, said. <br /> <br />One of the largest islands, with a population of 2.7 million, republican sentiment was growing stronger in Jamaica, especially among the young, he said. Having to address the issue of a King Charles and Queen Camilla was “a new development that certainly would heighten interest”. <br /><br />“I’m sure the matter (of republicanism) will now get greater consideration,” Mr Whiteman told The Times. <br /><br />Some countries are likely to remain loyal to the Crown, however. Canada, which is opposed to American-style republicanism, remains strongly pro-monarchy. <br /><br />So do the Bahamas and Belize, the Central American nation which relies on a British military presence to protect it against its larger neighbour, Honduras. <br /><br />Even on the tiny twin-island nation of St Kitts and Nevis, with a population of less than 40,000, Erasmus Williams, the Government’s press secretary, said that Mrs Parker Bowles’s status was not a big issue. <br /><br />“I doubt it will make a difference. We are quite monarchical right now,” he said.
 

cmyers_uk

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
May 4, 2004
Messages
760
Re: Queen Camilla???

As most of the people who I know who live in the UK do not care one way or another it amazed me to find this thread on iboats. Next time Charles pops round for tea I'll pass on Willy's tips re abdication. Life must be good if this is all weve got to chat about.
 

WillyBWright

Fleet Admiral
Joined
Dec 29, 2003
Messages
8,200
Re: Queen Camilla???

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers JB. <br /><br />I whipped out the calculator and I believe you're 274,982nd in line to the Throne. ;)
 
Top