Prop slippage?

bigmoe

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johnson 18 hp fd-19


So I took the boat out yesterday after resealing the lower end. When I had it apart everything look perfect inside, and it went back together great. Actually its pretty simple. So at the end of the day Im heading back to the dock running at 3/4 throttle and the motor starts over revving. I think ok must have lost the shear pin due to hitting some debris. So after coming to a stop I hit the gas again and Im moving again, Im doing about 10 mph so I throttle up higher and it starts slipping again. This time I take it out of gear and take a look, everything looks good no broken prop. I check reverse, check foward it shifts and sounds perfect. So after I get the boat trailered I take the prop off and the shear pin isnt sheared, hmmm. So my next thought is maybe the prop hub is slipping, so when I get home I checked the hub and I cant get it to slip, maybe not enough force? One thing I notice is the shear pin isnt brass, looks like steel. I will check it with a magnet tonight. So I check the lower end fluid and it looks perfect, no water or metal shavings. I drained about 3 tablespoons. So Im a little stumped at this point. I really dont want to take the lower end apart again because I cant see it being the problem, any suggestions? Sorry for the long post. Thanks.
 

wifisher

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Re: Prop slippage?

Put a ding on the prop hub and the prop, and see if they move.
 

F_R

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Re: Prop slippage?

You can't turn a slipping hub by hand, unless it is really grossly slipping. It has to restrain 18 horses, and you just aren't that strong.

The pin is not a shear pin, it is a DRIVE pin. It is made of stainless steel and is not intended to shear. The rubber cushion in the prop takes care of impacts.
 

bigmoe

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Re: Prop slippage?

You can't turn a slipping hub by hand, unless it is really grossly slipping. It has to restrain 18 horses, and you just aren't that strong.

The pin is not a shear pin, it is a DRIVE pin. It is made of stainless steel and is not intended to shear. The rubber cushion in the prop takes care of impacts.

So would it be fair to assume I should buy a new prop? Thank you for the info!
 

wifisher

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Re: Prop slippage?

So would it be fair to assume I should buy a new prop? Thank you for the info!

You can usually have the prop re-hubbed cheaper than a new one if it is in good condition. I always like to have a spare prop though. Maybe get a new one, put it on, then send in the old one for a new hub.
 

F_R

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Re: Prop slippage?

Don't buy anything till you test the old one. You test it by making a mark on the prop nut and another on the propeller itself, aligned with the first one. Run it till the suspected slippage occurs, then stop and look at the marks. If they are no longer aligned, it slipped.
 

bigmoe

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Re: Prop slippage?

Don't buy anything till you test the old one. You test it by making a mark on the prop nut and another on the propeller itself, aligned with the first one. Run it till the suspected slippage occurs, then stop and look at the marks. If they are no longer aligned, it slipped.

Can I test it at home in a tank of water? Can I get the same effect without pushing a boat? I dont want to have to go to the lake waste a day and 25.00 bucks.
 

JB

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Re: Prop slippage?

Have you considered prop ventilation or even cavitation? Sure sounds like ventilation to me.
 

bigmoe

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Re: Prop slippage?

Have you considered prop ventilation or even cavitation? Sure sounds like ventilation to me.

It has never done this before and there was a lot of debris in the water. My son says he heard something hit when it happened.
 

bigmoe

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Re: Prop slippage?

Can I test it at home in a tank of water? Can I get the same effect without pushing a boat? I dont want to have to go to the lake waste a day and 25.00 bucks.

Anyone have any thoughts on testing it in a tank to get it to slip?
 

smatsinger

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Re: Prop slippage?

Just wanted to say thanks. Had the same problem this weekend. Problem solved!
 
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