President Bush Blamed for Mine Disaster

KaGee

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<br />Less than 24-hours after 12 of the 13 workers trapped by a West Virginia mine explosion were found dead, critics were already politicizing the disaster, with at least one mine safety expert blaming President Bush.
Excerpted from HERE.<br /><br />Is there anything not Bush's fault? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

eeboater

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Re: President Bush Blamed for Mine Disaster

Guess he shouldn't have had that second chili-dog...
 

oddjob

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Asked why the allegedly unsafe mine continued to operate, Spadaro contended:<br /><br />"I think it's because of the current Bush administration's policies toward mine operators and their reluctance to take the strong enforcement action that's sometimes necessary."<br /><br />
Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen. Bush did it again..lol
 

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As much as I despise GW, I can not imagine where such a improper remark can be based. GW, you get to walk free on this one, only a real nut (worse than me) can relate you to this one.
 

Haut Medoc

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Righty drivel site....While "W" didn't kick out the shoring timbers, or light the match, it is no surprise to me that he allowed incompetent people to be put in charge of something important.....JK
 

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I'm tying not to call anyone names here!......<br /><br />Bush didnt switch or appoint all the federal dept. heads of every single government regulated institution.<br /><br />BTW what was the cause of the accident (explosion)? I myself have not heard it reported. So, unlike some of our local experts, I cant comment on whos at fault. I would be talking out of my azz if I did.. :p
 

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I get so tired of the right whining about being persecuted. Take Rush's advice and stop thinking of yourselves constantly as victims!<br /><br />That being said, Mine safety, and OSHA (and whatever other organization is involved) are serious concerns, and clearly something went wrong in this case. It should be investigated to avoid a repeat.<br /><br />In Canada, for example, supervisors and management can be held criminally liable in an accident if they fail to properly enforce safety rules and proceedures. I have no idea whether that would be applicable in this case, but workplace safety is, as they say, no accident.
 

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The last I heard was that the mining company had a long list of mine safety violations. There was also a lot of lighting in the area at the time. Can’t figure out how lighting would affect them that far in the ground. How that can be hung on W is beyond me.
 

bootle

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Wishful thinking of the mindless no less.
 

txswinner

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PW2, Nope on the criminal unless fraud or intent was cause. You know kick backs and stuff.<br /><br />Investigate yes blame no. that is akin to blaming GW cause I had a blow out on my car on a interstate highway. I don't like or trust him but come on now.
 

Parrott_head

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The only arguement for the president being responsible would be if he were to have put in place an assistant secretary to the Mine Safety and Health Administration who removed safety regulation or curtailed enforcement operations.<br /><br />David G. Dye is the head of MSHA now. He joined the Department of Labor in 2001 and was appointed head of the MSHA in 2004.<br /><br />The MSHA is a sub-department of the Department of Labor. Organization Flow Chart for Department of Labor <br />The DOL is headed by Elaine A. Chao.
 
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The only arguement for the president being responsible would be if he were to have put in place an assistant secretary to the Mine Safety and Health Administration who removed safety regulation or curtailed enforcement operations
With HOW MANY limo's and other "perks" of untold $$$ amount. Do we want another gov. agency?<br /><br />When does our lack of interest in what is happening in Washington end?<br /><br />Apathy=tyranism. But, (Yawn) who cares. What's on TV?
 

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FTR, I am not looking to pin blame on anyone specifically, let alone GWB. And the very fact they were having Fed inspections with apparently a long list of violations is probably a positive sign on the part of the administration.<br /><br />I am, however, a strong proponent of workplace safety, and a strong proponent of workplace rules, conditions, etc. You can get that way if you ever have to help remove a man who had his foot twisted around a 3 foot diameter sprocket who was standing on a chain in a sawmill and didn't observe proper lockout proceedures...It leaves a strong and lasting impression.<br /><br />And investigating the accident is crucial in determining what changes in policy or proceedures, or enforcement may be necessary.<br /><br />This is serious business, and I do hope there is not some political cronie involved, be it on part of the government or the company involved. I would assume that was not the case, but a decent investigation will reveal the facts.<br /><br />BTW, We had in our mill office a framed copy of a newspaper article detailing a negligent homicide charge against two supervisors in a local Ontario steel mill who repeatedly allowed employees to ignore safety rules and regulations.
 

Limited-Time

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Everyone knows GWB hates Miners. :rolleyes: He only likes oil workers. :p
 

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Originally posted by DJ:<br />
The only arguement for the president being responsible would be if he were to have put in place an assistant secretary to the Mine Safety and Health Administration who removed safety regulation or curtailed enforcement operations
With HOW MANY limo's and other "perks" of untold $$$ amount. Do we want another gov. agency?<br /><br />When does our lack of interest in what is happening in Washington end?<br /><br />Apathy=tyranism. But, (Yawn) who cares. What's on TV?
Uh DJ,<br /><br />These agencies already exist. The Mine Safety and Health Administration was put into place in 1978, under the umbrella of the Department of Labor, which dates back to 1913. I did not propose creating a new department. I was giving the information of what Federal agencies would be involved in mine safety.
 

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OSHA and the other goverment saftey agencys have been lacking in inforcement and inspection going back to REGAN at least.<br /><br />i can remenber around 1975 it was normal for companys of all sizes to get a visit and a write up at least once a year.<br /><br />NOW unless there is a BAD time loss accident,death or employe complaint they dont show up.<br /><br />we use and outside trainer to keep us in complance train new employes and retrain everybody on and annual basis<br /><br />its sad to say that are only OSHA check in 15 years in a 100 employee manufacturing company was from and employee complaint about a minor item<br /><br />tommays
 

sid the squid

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I guess that the west virginia agencies that regulate mine safety take their orders from President Bush instead of the democrat governor.
 

jtexas

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Originally posted by Limited-Time:<br /> Everyone knows GWB hates Minors. :rolleyes: He only likes oil workers. :p
I think the word you're lookin for is minorities, not minors ;) <br /><br /><br />Let's face it, you become President, you get blamed for stuff.
 
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PW2,<br /><br />Canada is a "world leader" in incomptence, by government rule.<br /><br />We should bow down and pledge our allegiance?<br /><br />NEVER!<br /><br />You quote Canadas WONDERFUL policies, yet I have noticed you live in the US. Why is that? SS-Marie is a stones throw from the "Promised Land".<br /><br />I suggest-you move-argument OVER.
 
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